IMUS Statement...err?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

IMUS Statement

The Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, had lost the day before in the NCAA women's championship game. Imus was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk about the game when the exchange began on "Imus in the Morning," which is broadcast to millions of people on more than 70 stations and MSNBC.

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos ... ."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Imus apologized on the air Friday, but his mea culpa has not quieted the uproar.

Jackson said Sunday his RainbowPUSH Coalition planned to protest Monday in Chicago outside the offices of NBC, which owns MSNBC. Jackson said protests were being planned across the country.

James E. Harris, president of the New Jersey chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded Sunday that Imus "resign or be terminated immediately."

Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, said the network considers Imus' comments "deplorable" and is reviewing the matter.

Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio -- Imus' employer and the owner of his New York radio home, WFAN-AM -- said the company was "disappointed" in Imus' actions and characterized his comments as "completely inappropriate."

Link (http://www.wnbc.com/news/11586673/detail.html?dl=mainclick)

[Rick H.I.C.]

Not condoning it: If the roles were reversed would anything be said or blown out?

[paniro187]

Not condoning it: If the roles were reversed would anything be said or blown out?and here comes the typical republican

[Candy]

I KNEW HE WAS GONNA SLIP UP SOONER OR LATER!!!

[Rick H.I.C.]

[QUOTE=paniro187]and here comes the typical republican[/QUOTE:crying: Whatever?

[MadseasoN]

:gesture:

^ to this thread.

[Candy]

Imus has "verbal diarrhea" (yes i watched the Sopranos last night) republican or not! He let's those lips flap him into trouble all the time, same goes for that other fugger O'Reily. I love it when the true nature of racism comes out!!!

They'll learn sooner or later, too bad I can't move in next to his ars and have all my "GHETTO HOS homegirls" come over and bang 2Pac in his ear all night!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Not condoning it: If the roles were reversed would anything be said or blown out?

1) Are you inferring that this is being blown out of proportion? I hope not because that shyt was past ridiculous.

2) I think that if a mainstream radio host referred to a female basketball team as a bunch of [insert adjective] crackers or any other derogatory terminology, yes, he would be scrutinized for it...

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

:gesture:

^ to this thread.

Er? Nah partna...This Imus character was out of line for the comment so :gesture: to your post...

[MadseasoN]

Er? Nah partna...This Imus character was out of line for the comment.

Yeah, maybe so. So let's all make a big deal about it and make him more famous than he already is.

You don't have to get p1ssed off just because someone disagrees with you.

[del240z]

It was wrong on his part, PERIOD. We've already established that fact. I think the real question, is how do we procced forward with it now? If the radio station fire's him, it makes them look good in promoting the fact that they dont condone rascism of any nature. Honestly, he's an extension of information and shouldnt be inferring to ANY race or culture in any derogatory fashion. Rascism exists everywhere. More so than others. You can sit here and argue back and forth all day about "What if the tables were turned blah blah blah", but THIS is the issue at hand. I dont mind posting up an article about the "militia men" on our borders, taking matters into they're own hands against MY people. It's just an article that was brought up. So let's discuss....:nod:

[Candy]

To be honest, the comments make me sick, BUT I think he has freedom of speech just as much as I do. I really don't consider him an "extension of information" b/c he's a talk radio host, but if he was a anchor on CNN whose job it is to be objective then fire his b!tch a$$.

[del240z]

Well of course we have freedom of speech, but that still doesnt give any right to any individual to refer to rascist comments. See, thats where the mis-information comes in. The KKK or "white power" groups fall back on that whole "Freedom of speech" bit, but do not understand that slavery, abolished by Abraham Lincoln, is illegal now, in any form or fashion. Wether it is publisiced (sp), televised or brought upon the "people" or "media" in any other form or fashion. Not disagreeing with you 1FastGSXR, just adding onto what you posted.....:hello:

[Rick H.I.C.]

Jackson said Sunday his RainbowPUSH Coalition planned to protest Monday in Chicago outside the offices of NBC, which owns MSNBC. Jackson said protests were being planned across the country.

James E. Harris, president of the New Jersey chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded Sunday that Imus "resign or be terminated immediately."
Should be handled by the company properly. Not by these ^ professional yahoos wanting to stir trouble at every improper comment.

[del240z]

Exactly.....:nod:. That'slike the Rev. Jesse Jackson going around trying to talk for african americans. He has, in my eyes, done nothing for african americans, in today's times. I respected Martin Luther King alot for the message that he was conveying. He wanted EVERYONE to live in a peaceful society.......

[Candy]

I've come to believe that your rights stop where mine start which means that until you have violated my rights as a US citizen you can enjoy the same rights I do. Unfortunately he hasn't made any attempts on their lives, burned any crosses (damaged property), or infringed on anyone's civil liberites, so as DISGUSTING as his comments are, they are his to throw out there.

What's scary is how many MUTHA FUGGERS out there that feel the same way, and of those how many take it so far as the KKK?

Truth be told somebody on MH gave me some (what I felt) was racist comments not too long ago. I WAS PISSED, but that was his hang up not mine and his ignorance to display.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Yeah, maybe so. So let's all make a big deal about it and make him more famous than he already is.

You don't have to get p1ssed off just because someone disagrees with you.

I'm actually not pissed about what you said but I thought that it should have been kept off of the thread. You could have refrained from clicking "submit reply"...it brought nothing to the conversation. Rick had a contrasting opinion and I didn't get pissed at what he said...that is all :icon_thum

[del240z]

Of course. People have the right to free speech. But nowadays, it just sucks to hear some of the garbage that comes out of people's mouth these day's....:puke: :keke:


And that goes for every race, culture and society.....:nod:

[del240z]

I'm actually not pissed about what you said but I thought that it should have been kept off of the thread. You could have refrained from clicking "submit reply"...it brought nothing to the conversation. Rick had a contrasting opinion and I didn't get pissed at what he said...that is all :icon_thum

THe whole point of this thread is to discuss, right? There's no reason for anyone to take a negative tone, because this is purely for discussion, and like 1Fast GSXR said, everyone is entitled to "freedom of speech"....however weird it may be.....:keke:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I've come to believe that your rights stop where mine start which means that until you have violated my rights as a US citizen you can enjoy the same rights I do. Unfortunately he hasn't made any attempts on their lives, burned any crosses (damaged property), or infringed on anyone's civil liberites, so as DISGUSTING as his comments are, they are his to throw out there.

What's scary is how many MUTHA FUGGERS out there that feel the same way, and of those how many take it so far as the KKK?

Truth be told somebody on MH gave me some (what I felt) was racist comments not too long ago. I WAS PISSED, but that was his hang up not mine and his ignorance to display.

The only thing I really disagree with is that he has the right to say these things (as a main stream media personality). Sure, as an individual, I couldn't give a dayum if he said it but the fact that he is supposed to be a portal for information in the media, I think he needs to be held accountable for making racist/ other derogatory comments.

[del240z]

It was wrong on his part, PERIOD. We've already established that fact. I think the real question, is how do we procced forward with it now? If the radio station fire's him, it makes them look good in promoting the fact that they dont condone rascism of any nature. Honestly, he's an extension of information and shouldnt be inferring to ANY race or culture in any derogatory fashion. Rascism exists everywhere. More so than others. You can sit here and argue back and forth all day about "What if the tables were turned blah blah blah", but THIS is the issue at hand. I dont mind posting up an article about the "militia men" on our borders, taking matters into they're own hands against MY people. It's just an article that was brought up. So let's discuss....:nod:


+1 to CajumSOulja....:icon_thum

[MadseasoN]

I'm actually not pissed about what you said but I thought that it should have been kept off of the thread. You could have refrained from clicking "submit reply"...it brought nothing to the conversation. Rick had a contrasting opinion and I didn't get pissed at what he said...that is all :icon_thum

I posted my opinion just like everyone else. My opinion was :gesture:

Sorry if you think 'it brought nothing to the conversation'. Okie Dokie?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

THe whole point of this thread is to discuss, right? There's no reason for anyone to take a negative tone, because this is purely for discussion, and like 1Fast GSXR said, everyone is entitled to "freedom of speech"....however weird it may be.....:keke:

exactly, and I was pointing out that I wasn't taking a negative tone with him for what he had said but rather...making it known that I thought what he brought to the conversation with that particular could have gone without having been posted.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I posted my opinion just like everyone else. My opinion was :gesture:

Sorry if you think 'it brought nothing to the conversation'. Okie Dokie?

:icon_thum Sure thing buddy...

[Candy]

THe whole point of this thread is to discuss, right? There's no reason for anyone to take a negative tone, because this is purely for discussion, and like 1Fast GSXR said, everyone is entitled to "freedom of speech"....however weird it may be.....:keke:

Trust me though I wasn't talking freedom of speech when homeboy said what he said on the thread at the time, but today after I've moved on....freedom of speech....right on! May not always agree but just like u can spit your bull$h!t antics, so can I.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :nod:

[del240z]

Trust me though I wasn't talking freedom of speech when homeboy said what he said on the thread at the time, but today after I've moved on....freedom of speech....right on! May not always agree but just like u can spit your bull$h!t antics, so can I.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :nod:


:keke:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Trust me though I wasn't talking freedom of speech when homeboy said what he said on the thread at the time, but today after I've moved on....freedom of speech....right on! May not always agree but just like u can spit your bull$h!t antics, so can I.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :nod:

OoOhhh...Dulce de leche con quemada...guapa :icon_bigg

[Candy]

The only thing I really disagree with is that he has the right to say these things (as a main stream media personality). Sure, as an individual, I couldn't give a dayum if he said it but the fact that he is supposed to be a portal for information in the media, I think he needs to be held accountable for making racist/ other derogatory comments.

But he's just that a "media personality" just like the DJ's you listen to on the radio on the way to work. If he was a REPORTER of news then I would have a problem with the lack of objectivity his station has in the news they report, but this is radio personality, like Bill Maher is a TV personality, and Howard Stern is a radio personality. They DEFINATELY are distinguished from the news media, they actually distinguish THEMSELVES from the media.

[Candy]

:keke:


Thought u'd like that Black Panther flash back!!! :laughing6

[del240z]

They're all sheep.......:3some:

[del240z]

Thought u'd like that Black Panther flash back!!! :laughing6




Hahahahaha.....FIght the Power!!!!! :keke:

[Blue91]

Why is it that when a white man says stuff like that, people call for his firing. However, when a black/hispanic man says things like that, he gets a comedy special, a tv show, a cd released, movies, etc etc etc? It seems that anyone who does jokes about whites is ok and laughed at. Some old idiot dude "tries" to be funny and says something ignorant, everyone wants him fired.

It's a double standard. I don't agree with what he said at all. IMO it was over the line. However, when will people start feeling the same way anytime a non-white person says similar things about whites? As long as people are differentiated by whatever color(religion/sex) they are, there will ALWAYS be a divide.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

But he's just that a "media personality" just like the DJ's you listen to on the radio on the way to work. If he was a REPORTER of news then I would have a problem with the lack of objectivity his station has in the news they report, but this is radio personality, like Bill Maher is a TV personality, and Howard Stern is a radio personality. They DEFINATELY are distinguished from the news media, they actually distinguish THEMSELVES from the media.

The difference is that Howard Stern's audience is a bit more limited in that The Imus show is comparable to that of Fox & Friends, The Today Show and The View...how do you think people would react to Bill Maher making racist comments? The Imus show is featured on MSNBC, this is a distinguishable difference to the Howard Stern Show. I understand that he is a "media personality" but this does not justify his use of derogatory language in any instance. He still held to the same limits as are other entities in other various media outlets...

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Thought u'd like that Black Panther flash back!!! :laughing6

I was just about to call you Angela...

[Candy]

Honestly dude those same comedians make fun of their OWN PEOPLE!!!! I havent heard ANY mainstream black tv host spit anything like this about any non-white b/c there aren't many in such a position, but I can understand your point.

Bottomline tolerance can go ALL the way around the culture pot!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Why is it that when a white man says stuff like that, people call for his firing. However, when a black/hispanic man says things like that, he gets a comedy special, a tv show, a cd released, movies, etc etc etc? It seems that anyone who does jokes about whites is ok and laughed at. Some old idiot dude "tries" to be funny and says something ignorant, everyone wants him fired.

It's a double standard. I don't agree with what he said at all. IMO it was over the line. However, when will people start feeling the same way anytime a non-white person says similar things about whites? As long as people are differentiated by whatever color(religion/sex) they are, there will ALWAYS be a divide.

I'd like to know an instance where a black or other minority media personality has issued statements which would rival those made by this Imus guy -if there ever were a case- and didn't get fired or otherwise scrutinized. Now I do happen agree with you on the issue of there needing to be some consistency when it comes to issues regarding racism in the media.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Honestly dude those same comedians make fun of their OWN PEOPLE!!!! I havent heard ANY mainstream black tv host spit anything like this about any non-white b/c there aren't many in such a position, but I can understand your point.

Bottomline tolerance can go ALL the way around the culture pot!!!

Yea I doubt you'll hear Tavis Smiley or Stuart Scott making racially motivated statements without losing their jobs...

[MadseasoN]

:icon_thum Sure thing buddy...

Alright well I'm not gonna get into a deep dive political discussion where we'll all gain important insight into political topics and solve the world's problems. I'll just give a bikers opinion other than :gesture: (which evidently translates poorly).

This is what I should've posted:
The reality is this is nothing more than publicity/fodder for PUSH. Sad but true.

EDIT:
And CS, take a listen to the Tom Joyner show. Remember back when he talked about how stupid that 'little white girl' was for getting her arm bitten off by a shark? Just giving an example since you asked for one.

[Candy]

The difference is that Howard Stern's audience is a bit more limited in that The Imus show is comparable to that of Fox & Friends, The Today Show and The View...how do you think people would react to Bill Maher making racist comments? The Imus show is featured on MSNBC, this is a distinguishable difference to the Howard Stern Show. I understand that he is a "media personality" but this does not justify his use of derogatory language in any instance. He still held to the same limits as are other entities in other various media outlets...

While u bull$hitting Rosie O'Donnell is in the sh!t pool right now for her "conspiracy" comments about 9/11. Which is wrong, she has the right to say whatever she wants. I do know there is a difference with what Howard Stern speaks about, but still the same type of entity just a different vehicle of sorts.

[Blue91]

Not saying another "talk show host" has done the same. As someone else mentioned though, that's all he is.. a talk show host, not some "unbiased media" reporter (if there is such a thing as unbiased media, a whole other topic, lol).

Just saying... the double standard about what's acceptable to make fun of and what isn't is ridiculous.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Alright well I'm not gonna get into a deep dive political discussion where we'll all gain important insight into political topics and solve the world's problems. I'll just give a bikers opinion other than :gesture: (which evidently translates poorly). Not sure what exactly that is supposed to mean

This is what I should've posted:
The reality is this is nothing more than publicity/fodder for PUSH. Sad but true.

You're probably right and yes...that is a bit more what I would think of as contributive to the discussion.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Alright well I'm not gonna get into a deep dive political discussion where we'll all gain important insight into political topics and solve the world's problems. I'll just give a bikers opinion other than :gesture: (which evidently translates poorly).

This is what I should've posted:
The reality is this is nothing more than publicity/fodder for PUSH. Sad but true.

EDIT:
And CS, talk a listen to the Tom Joyner show. Remember back when he talked about how stupid that 'little white girl' was for getting her arm bitten off by a shark? Just giving an example since you asked for one.

Didn't hear that one but I don't think the two are equally comparable. The girl was white and in his opinion, she was stupid. Where are the parallel's?

[Candy]

Alright well I'm not gonna get into a deep dive political discussion where we'll all gain important insight into political topics and solve the world's problems. I'll just give a bikers opinion other than :gesture: (which evidently translates poorly).

This is what I should've posted:
The reality is this is nothing more than publicity/fodder for PUSH. Sad but true.

Might be but still worth disgussing on a wide scale which is what PUSH and NAACP do, put pressure on the right entites to stop the bullsh!t. As for the black community PUSH and NAACP are the only organizations that are available to speak on our behalf or take action againt those that misconstrue what the African American can bring to the table here in America.

Since I actually marched next to Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton in New Orleans last April, I'm kinda APPRECIATING the stands they take in our community, NOW I DON"T ALWAYS AGREE WITH ALL of their rhetoric, but they're doing more than a lot of others. Also keep in mind that Rev. Jackson was there the day MLK was shot, had been fer several years prior, so he's on the right train.

[Blue91]

Didn't hear that one but I don't think the two are equally comparable. The girl was white and in his opinion, she was stupid. Where are the parallel's?

Well, why the need to point out she was white? Was he talking about a GROUP of girls (all different colors), all of whom happened to have their arms bitten off by sharks and he needed to point out which particular one he was referring to? Doubtful.

I agree though, it's not quite apples to apples.

[MadseasoN]

Didn't hear that one but I don't think the two are equally comparable.

Of course not. They never are.

I'm done with this thread. It was posted to start a racial debate which I usually stay out of. :angry7:

[Rick H.I.C.]

Didn't hear that one but I don't think the two are equally comparable. The girl was white and in his opinion, she was stupid. Where are the parallel's?
A comment that should not have been made. The parallel would be if were said about as a " black girl" the country would be ready to riot.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Well, why the need to point out she was white? Was he talking about a GROUP of girls (all different colors), all of whom happened to have their arms bitten off by sharks and he needed to point out which particular one he was referring to? Doubtful.

I agree though, it's not quite apples to apples.

I forgot to put in there that it was on that fence...I do tend to think it's stupid when people say "that [color] boy/girl was [insert comment]"...unnecessary qualification indeed :icon_thum

[Rick H.I.C.]

Might be but still worth disgussing on a wide scale which is what PUSH and NAACP do, put pressure on the right entites to stop the bullsh!t. As for the black community PUSH and NAACP are the only organizations that are available to speak on our behalf or take action againt those that misconstrue what the African American can bring to the table here in America.

Since I actually marched next to Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton in New Orleans last April, I'm kinda APPRECIATING the stands they take in our community, NOW I DON"T ALWAYS AGREE WITH ALL of their rhetoric, but they're doing more than a lot of others. Also keep in mind that Rev. Jackson was there the day MLK was shot, had been fer several years prior, so he's on the right train.
Naw, they just stir up more.

[Candy]

Guys don't take it personal!!! If it makes u feel any better phuck Tom Joyner for calling the girl white, hell she might a been South American for all I know!!! Point being is, we all can stand to be a little more tolerant of each other, and a little more TACTFUL of our comments about other races.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Of course not. They never are.

I'm done with this thread. It was posted to start a racial debate which I usually stay out of. :angry7:

The intention was not to start a racial debate but rather to get you all's impressions on the matter. Across the board, if you make racist comments as a person in the media...you need to be held accountable. I don't give two shyts about what some random idiot has to say about blacks because in the end it is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Again if Tom Joyner made a statement saying "these [insert adjective] white hoes/trash from Purdue..." then his ass should be fired. The instance you presented was not exactly comparable...as you were

[Candy]

Naw, they just stir up more.


And rightfully so, otherwise who would discuss what is wrong for the deprived! Case in point if Abe Lincoln wouldn't have said this slavery $h!t is for the birds, I'd be locked down on a plantation with permanent whip marks on my back!!

[MadseasoN]

The intention was not to start a racial debate but rather to get you all's impressions on the matter. Across the board, if you make racist comments as a person in the media...you need to be held accountable. I don't give two shyts about what some random idiot has to say about blacks because in the end it is his opinion and he is entitled to it. Again if Tom Joyner made a statement saying "these [insert adjective] white hoes/trash from Purdue..." then his ass should be fired. The instance you presented was not exactly comparable...as you were

Ok if that wasn't your intention then I stand corrected.

Just came back to post Joyner's audio clip about the 13 year old child losing her arm.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/docs/joyner_shark.mp3

Personally not offensive to me, but let's be fair across the board.


Here's the search that I used to find the clip:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tom+joyner+shark

[Crystalline]

I'd like to know an instance where a black or other minority media personality has issued statements which would rival those made by this Imus guy -if there ever were a case- and didn't get fired or otherwise scrutinized. Now I do happen agree with you on the issue of there needing to be some consistency when it comes to issues regarding racism in the media.


You haven't heard shade 45 have you? They aren't always bad, but they say a lot of shit about other races and "n" this and "n" that. But that's what they do. I radio station owned by a white man (Marshall Mathers) and hosted by minorities. But it may not fall under what you think would fit the criteria. I started in this thread too late... I'm done.

[Candy]

Ok if that wasn't your intention then I stand corrected.

Just came back to post Joyner's audio clip about the 13 year old child losing her arm.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/docs/joyner_shark.mp3

Personally not offensive to me, but let's be fair across the board.

repost..

Guys don't take it personal!!! If it makes u feel any better phuck Tom Joyner for calling the girl white, hell she might a been South American for all I know!!! Point being is, we all can stand to be a little more tolerant of each other, and a little more TACTFUL of our comments about other races.

[Candy]

You haven't heard shade 45 have you? They aren't always bad, but they say a lot of shit about other races and "n" this and "n" that. But that's what they do. I radio station owned by a white man (Marshall Mathers) and hosted by minorities. But it may not fall under what you think would fit the criteria. I started in this thread too late... I'm done.

Never heard it but would like to, and it does fit the criteria, he can spout out his bull$h!t until he pisses off enough listeners to where no one else listens, it's his ok to do so. People are gonna be offended and disgusted, but until it kills someone, can't hold him liable.

[Rick H.I.C.]

And rightfully so, otherwise who would discuss what is wrong for the deprived! Case in point if Abe Lincoln wouldn't have said this slavery $h!t is for the birds, I'd be locked down on a plantation with permanent whip marks on my back!!
:laughing6 Little extereme there? But I guess that's how these "coalitions" see things. Blow it up until we get retribution for our ancestors. :angry7: I personally don't think all slaves where treated like that. I have ancestors that worked in the fields, get this there were white, no really.

[MadseasoN]

repost..



Repost? You've been here a week and you're calling out reposts? Where was this posted before?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Ok if that wasn't your intention then I stand corrected.

Just came back to post Joyner's audio clip about the 13 year old child losing her arm.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/docs/joyner_shark.mp3

Personally not offensive to me, but let's be fair across the board.

Can't hear it as I am at work...is there a transcript out there? Anybody? If he said blah blah white girlblah blah blah....then that is on the fence and he should probably be a bit mot tactful about his use of words on the air.

[Candy]

Repost? You've been here a week and you're calling out reposts? Where was this posted before?

I had posted it myself a couple of quotes before!! Figured ya'll missed it!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

You haven't heard shade 45 have you? They aren't always bad, but they say a lot of shit about other races and "n" this and "n" that. But that's what they do. I radio station owned by a white man (Marshall Mathers) and hosted by minorities. But it may not fall under what you think would fit the criteria. I started in this thread too late... I'm done.

Nope...you never wanna let me listen to the dag-on radio in the car...stupid rock CD's :angry7:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

:laughing6 Little extereme there? But I guess that's how these "coalitions" see things. Blow it up until we get retribution for our ancestors. :angry7: I personally don't think all slaves where treated like that. I have ancestors that worked in the fields, get this there were white, no really.

Of course not all were treated like that...you had to have House N's to live up to the William Lynch methodology...but blacks were widely mistreated during slavery so to dismiss it as if blacks were treated mostly good is a bit foolish...

[Crystalline]

:laughing6 Little extereme there? But I guess that's how these "coalitions" see things. Blow it up until we get retribution for our ancestors. :angry7: I personally don't think all slaves where treated like that. I have ancestors that worked in the fields, get this there were white, no really.


First time I have seen a sense of humor in you... hahahaha.
Okay maybe not the first time. :angry7:

[Rick H.I.C.]

Can't hear it as I am at work...is there a transcript out there? Anybody? If he said blah blah white girlblah blah blah....then that is on the fence and he should probably be a bit mot tactful about his use of words on the air.
Always needing proof. If I'm correct little "white" girl in Hawaii, still surfing in contests. Courageously I might add. Better than punk as* who made the comment.

[Candy]

:laughing6 Little extereme there? But I guess that's how these "coalitions" see things. Blow it up until we get retribution for our ancestors. :angry7: I personally don't think all slaves where treated like that. I have ancestors that worked in the fields, get this there were white, no really.


I believe u based on my Great Grandfathers research of our own family history.

[Crystalline]

Nope...you never wanna let me listen to the dag-on radio in the car...stupid rock CD's :angry7:



YOU BE QUITE! And I have XM in my car, not sirius. My mom has it in her truck... Next time we be swangin.... k? We can creep.. BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!
(Not the usual way I drive) :crying:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Always needing proof. If I'm correct little "white" girl in Hawaii, still surfing in contests. Courageously I might add. Better than punk as* who made the comment.

Not needing proof...I can;t hear the dayum thing man :keke: off my back bruva. But yea the qualification as yourself and Blue have alluded was quite unnecessary and he is a bit of a punk ass if he was calling her stupid for wanting to do as she loves. It's like those folks that call us stupid for riding motorcycles...

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

YOU BE QUITE! And I have XM in my car, not sirius. My mom has it in her truck... Next time we be swangin.... k? We can creep.. BAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!
(Not the usual way I drive) :crying:

Yea cuz yo ass be flying n cussin' flying and cussin...n with these new tires, I kno yo ass be actin' a fool on that back stretch by ya house.

[Rick H.I.C.]

First time I have seen a sense of humor in you... hahahaha.
Okay maybe not the first time. :angry7:
Actually always try to use humor. That's why I tend to lean towards face to face conversations rather than impersonal ones on a computer.:icon_bigg That's why I use these stupid icons. Dang gonna get the icon coalition after me on that one.:angry7: :icon_bigg

[Crystalline]

Actually always try to use humor. That's why I tend to lean towards face to face conversations rather than impersonal ones on a computer.:icon_bigg That's why I use these stupid icons. Dang gonna get the icon coalition after me on that one.:angry7: :icon_bigg


I know!!!! GEEZ!:BangHead:
But really, I have seen it quite a few times.

[Crystalline]

Yea cuz yo ass be flying n cussin' flying and cussin...n with these new tires, I kno yo ass be actin' a fool on that back stretch by ya house.



Damnit... Let's relate my driving to this topic... I stereotype... I need to quit that.:sad7:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Damnit... Let's relate my driving to this topic... I stereotype... I need to quit that.:sad7:

Yes indeed...you definately wouldn't want to be nationally syndicated with the Chavez n all.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I think the thread has run it's course...thanks for the discussion folks...n Rick we still got that discussion, we'll go to Crys' yob n bother her while we're at it...:keke:

[Candy]

Ya'll fuggers done got off topic!!! LOL

[Crystalline]

Yes indeed...you definately wouldn't want to be nationally syndicated with the Chavez n all.


You hush. Don't make me tell all of MH what you did!!! hahahahahahahaa!!! jk. You'd probably kick me. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!

[Crystalline]

Ya'll fuggers done got off topic!!! LOL


I so0o0o tried to bring it back on topic with my stereotyping when I drive. Buuuuuut it didn't work. :BangHead:

But we all agree.... What he did was wrong. :nod:

[Rick H.I.C.]

I think the thread has run it's course...thanks for the discussion folks...n Rick we still got that discussion, we'll go to Crys' yob n bother her while we're at it...:keke:
Yep, done gone south.

:icon_thum

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Ya'll fuggers done got off topic!!! LOL

LMAO...just saw that...o well. Still a better one than I expected, they usually go south pretty quick and by they I mean these type of threads, but there were good points on both sides and for the most part stayed civilized.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

You hush. Don't make me tell all of MH what you did!!! hahahahahahahaa!!! jk. You'd probably kick me. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!

Tryin to figure out what you referring to...but that's confidential information KEEP THAT ISH IN TEXT MSG. :keke:

[Crystalline]

Tryin to figure out what you referring to...but that's confidential information KEEP THAT ISH IN TEXT MSG. :keke:


I"LL DO WHAT I WANT!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

N yes I think we pretty much all agree that Imus was wrong for his statement and Tom Joyner was wrong for his purported statements...thx Dulce kept it intelligent n gangsta all in the same :keke:

[Candy]

N yes I think we pretty much all agree that Imus was wrong for his statement and Tom Joyner was wrong for his purported statements...thx Dulce kept it intelligent n gangsta all in the same :keke:

:nod: U already know!!!

[MadseasoN]

Just thought I'd follow up on this. Here's Sharpton's interview with Imus.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b1_1176147032

May be some NSFW ads on the site.

[Candy]

I saw that!! I actually was impressed that
A. Imus even went on the show, and
B. he handled himself well.

Considering I thought they would slaughter him. The girls response to it was good too.

[MadseasoN]

I saw that!! I actually was impressed that
A. Imus even went on the show, and
B. he handled himself well.

Considering I thought they would slaughter him. The girls response to it was good too.

My observations:
1. Imus did not need notes. Sharpton did.
2. Sharpton trips over his own words and stutters several times.
3. Imus admitted that he was wrong but stood his ground.
4. Nobody in their right mind would resign their million dollar salary over something like this.

I'm betting this will all go away soon. It's nothing but fabricated 'news'. The media has a field day with it because it's easy and half of America is reality TV/Drama obsessed so they eat it up.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Sharpton and all these other supposed civil rights leaders have the perfect opportunity to address the use of this type of language on a grand scale but are too afraid of being scrutinized that they focus in on this Imus guy. Sure what he said was wrong but let the networks handle what they do with him. They should be focused on somebody like 50 or Jay who use the word ho so loosely that it has become a bit of an idiomatic expression amongst certain groups. I don't think Imus should be fired though because I feel that if you feel a certain way then dammit I'd like to know who you are...better the devil you know than the one you don't. Sharpton and others aren't, in my opinion, doing what it is they should be doing. :angry7:

[Candy]

Sharpton and all these other supposed civil rights leaders have the perfect opportunity to address the use of this type of language on a grand scale but are too afraid of being scrutinized that they focus in on this Imus guy. Sure what he said was wrong but let the networks handle what they do with him. They should be focused on somebody like 50 or Jay who use the word ho so loosely that it has become a bit of an idiomatic expression amongst certain groups. I don't think Imus should be fired though because I feel that if you feel a certain way then dammit I'd like to know who you are...better the devil you know than the one you don't. Sharpton and others aren't, in my opinion, doing what it is they should be doing. :angry7:

Anderson Cooper, grilled Rev Jackson on this last night, and Jackson admitted what he said shouldnt be said by NE1 even his own people. The young ladies (a black 1 btw) said the same thing it wasnt about black/white, it was about the way WOMEN are referred to as HOES. Very classy. :icon_thum

[ArturoC]

I typed 5 responses to this mess, but kept deleting them. I'll just say it's so over-blown it's not even funny.

[Rick H.I.C.]

My observations:
1. Imus did not need notes. Sharpton did.
2. Sharpton trips over his own words and stutters several times.
3. Imus admitted that he was wrong but stood his ground.
4. Nobody in their right mind would resign their million dollar salary over something like this.

I'm betting this will all go away soon. It's nothing but fabricated 'news'. The media has a field day with it because it's easy and half of America is reality TV/Drama obsessed so they eat it up.
:nod: Nothing more than face time. :angry7:

[witchdoctor575]

It really doesn't matter...Imus is an idiot. Garbage in...garbage out...

[witchdoctor575]

So I just saw an interview on abc news with the editor of vibe magazine. She said that it was ok for a black person to use hoes and *****s to describe each other because they were black and the fact that imus is white makes it wrong and racist. WTF! a derogatory word is still derogatory no matter who's mouth it comes from. What the hell is wrong with people like that. Were they dropped on their head as babies?

[Blue91]

Here's an article from former ESPN employee Jason Whitlock. A VERY objective view. Much respect to this piece...

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

[Candy]

OK...SOOOOO.....unless u live on another planet, u've heard that Don Imus was FIRED late yesterday.

I'm a little pissed about this one. I have to back up and say that NOW it's gone WAAAYYYY too far.

1. Placed into perspective, all-b-it the $h!t was distasteful the damn comment was a joke...a joke... I've played it back dozens of times and I hear a joke. Honestly, when I think back to my high school days, I woulda said the same $h!t to at least 2 of the girls my damn self.

2. Don Imus didn't get this "Nappy Headed Hoes" $h!t from his culture peers, he got it from OUR hip-hop community. So we need to deal with our use of the $h!t b4 we scould a white boy for just imitating us!!!

On the other hand I do understand the fact that he is influential, since I now hear that THE YOUNG LADIES ARE RECEIVING HATE MAIL about this which is SICK. However, the sincerity in his apologies, attempts at resolving the situation WITH THE ONES OFFENDED, and his suspension were enough...to me.

I'm still all for freedom of speech whether political or not!

[A303]

I typed 5 responses to this mess, but kept deleting them. I'll just say it's so over-blown it's not even funny.

Im just gonna have to put a +1 up to Arturos comment.

[MadseasoN]

THE YOUNG LADIES ARE RECEIVING HATE MAIL

That's just wrong.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

OK...SOOOOO.....unless u live on another planet, u've heard that Don Imus was FIRED late yesterday.

I'm a little pissed about this one. I have to back up and say that NOW it's gone WAAAYYYY too far.

1. Placed into perspective, all-b-it the $h!t was distasteful the damn comment was a joke...a joke... I've played it back dozens of times and I hear a joke. Honestly, when I think back to my high school days, I woulda said the same $h!t to at least 2 of the girls my damn self.

2. Don Imus didn't get this "Nappy Headed Hoes" $h!t from his culture peers, he got it from OUR hip-hop community. So we need to deal with our use of the $h!t b4 we scould a white boy for just imitating us!!!

On the other hand I do understand the fact that he is influential, since I now hear that THE YOUNG LADIES ARE RECEIVING HATE MAIL about this which is SICK. However, the sincerity in his apologies, attempts at resolving the situation WITH THE ONES OFFENDED, and his suspension were enough...to me.

I'm still all for freedom of speech whether political or not!

+1...the shyt has been blown completely out of proportion. Though what he said about the Rutgers girls was fcuked up, he complimented the Tennessee team which consists of mostly black females. Somehow, this was omitted from most of the replays you see on the news. And yes, it was a dayum joke, distasteful but a joke none the less. They shouldn't have taken the man's job, punish him, sure-but not his job. I'm waiting for a Duke lacrosse player apology from ol Sharpton for everything that was said throughout THAT investigation...or for Sharpton to address certain individuals within the Hip Hop community. It's pretty fcuked up that those girls are receiving hate mail...wtf did they do ?

[busa5225]

sharpton has way to much to say and blows every thing out of hand and if the shoe was on the otiher foot come on you would of even heard so what does that tell yea...

[Candy]

Yeah Al Sharpton, is moving this $h!t in the wrong direction. I appreciate civl rights leaders who speak for my community to ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR MY COMMUNITY. Not many in my community even know who the hell Imus is, so to be this brutal against him when the pot already calls the kettle black is a stretch!!!

People hatin' on the girls is dispicable!!!! I feel really sad for them right now. I'm sure they are just totally confused!

[Cherub]

2. Don Imus didn't get this "Nappy Headed Hoes" $h!t from his culture peers, he got it from OUR hip-hop community. So we need to deal with our use of the $h!t b4 we scould a white boy for just imitating us!!!



I couldnt have said it better myself. +1

[Crystalline]

He only got fired because of money.. They don't want to lose money because of one guy and they solved their problem.

[Candy]

Your definately on a point there chic-a-dee!! And I agree, it was pressure, the funny part is since the CBS's and NBC's are now benefactors of the entertainment we listen to, the real question is r they gonna start "filtering" that too. Whether u know it or not ur favorite rap artist and his label (ie: universal & sony) are actually at the end of the day owned by CBS and NBC!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

He only got fired because of money.. They don't want to lose money because of one guy and they solved their problem.

CLEAR YOUR INBOX WOMAN...and why ain't you respond to my text? O n +1 :icon_thum

[Blue91]

As long as sponsors don't pull their money, nothing will be done. Once the companies start losing money, THEN things happen.

This isn't about black, white, brown, pink, etc.... it's about one thing: G R E E N

[Crystalline]

They are but when you really think about it, those are two different worlds. Rappers like 50 cent, Akon, and Eminem, etc. are paid to say things of that nature to make their money. Imus is not. It sucks that even though he was influenced to say what he said, it's still not an excuse. People will do things just for money which really pisses me off. Where are your sense of morals you stood by when you said something degrading? Where is your pride to stand by what you said.
I forget this guys name on Lost, or House, or some show similar to that. He said something about "***got's" and because he didn't want to get fired, he went to REHAB!!!

[Crystalline]

CLEAR YOUR INBOX WOMAN...and why ain't you respond to my text? O n +1 :icon_thum



Maaaaan I just woke up, and I'm mad at you.:angry7:

[A303]

Maaaaan I just woke up, and I'm mad at you.:angry7:


:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Maaaaan I just woke up, and I'm mad at you.:angry7:

..figured that...damn :angry7: What I gotta do? OH I KNOW..I'll bring you some Oreos when I get in town tonight...:icon_bigg Yes?

[Crystalline]

As long as sponsors don't pull their money, nothing will be done. Once the companies start losing money, THEN things happen.

This isn't about black, white, brown, pink, etc.... it's about one thing: G R E E N



+323984723871298798347234

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6

Told you she was gonna be :eh:

[Crystalline]

..figured that...damn :angry7: What I gotta do? OH I KNOW..I'll bring you some Oreos when I get in town tonight...:icon_bigg Yes?


I get off at 2....

[A303]

Money runs everything, which explains why athletes get paid so god dam much and teachers do not. Athletes and sports bring in more revenue.

[MadseasoN]

As long as sponsors don't pull their money, nothing will be done. Once the companies start losing money, THEN things happen.

This isn't about black, white, brown, pink, etc.... it's about one thing: G R E E N


+ 867-5309

[Candy]

They are but when you really think about it, those are two different worlds. Rappers like 50 cent, Akon, and Eminem, etc. are paid to say things of that nature to make their money. Imus is not. It sucks that even though he was influenced to say what he said, it's still not an excuse. People will do things just for money which really pisses me off. Where are your sense of morals you stood by when you said something degrading? Where is your pride to stand by what you said.
I forget this guys name on Lost, or House, or some show similar to that. He said something about "***got's" and because he didn't want to get fired, he went to REHAB!!!


U talkin' about Isaiah Washington from Grey's Anatomy!!!

[Crystalline]

..figured that...damn :angry7: What I gotta do? OH I KNOW..I'll bring you some Oreos when I get in town tonight...:icon_bigg Yes?


I get off at 2.... You know this right? UGH I GO IN AT 3!!!:BangHead:

[A303]

Told you she was gonna be :eh:


You called it

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I get off at 2....

to work then ? :icon_bigg

[A303]

Cajun, i think we should go get sloshed at Sams tonight, were all goin out for my bday anyways, lol

[Crystalline]

U talkin' about Isaiah Washington from Grey's Anatomy!!!


THERE WE GO!!!! I could picture that black guy, asian gir, and those other couples, but I couldn't remember the name.... :nod: Thanks..

But you get what I'm saying right?

[Crystalline]

Cajun, i think we should go get sloshed at Sams tonight, were all goin out for my bday anyways, lol



If you do it's after 5 or 7 because the inside is going to be closed for a party... Unless ya'll want to be outside!?!?!:happy3: I'm not working tables till the party is over because i have to work the door for the party.

[A303]

If you do it's after 5 or 7 because the inside is going to be closed for a party... Unless ya'll want to be outside!?!?!:happy3: I'm not working tables till the party is over because i have to work the door for the party.

lol, we all may stop by, not sure where were going, but i dont work tomorrow until 3:icon_bigg

[Candy]

MOS DEF!!! But to me shock jocks are getting paid to be shocking to keep the ratings up!!! He's said some fugged up $h!t b4 this so it never bothered them until people started talkin about pulled money out, so were both right!!

[Crystalline]

TEH GAY!!!! FACKIN P*SS**S!!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Cajun, i think we should go get sloshed at Sams tonight, were all goin out for my bday anyways, lol

I'm down...let ya boy know som'n :nod: Just dun let me forget them Oreos...

[Crystalline]

lol, we all may stop by, not sure where were going, but i dont work tomorrow until 3:icon_bigg


Ya'll better... Who all is it going to be??

[A303]

TEH GAY!!!! FACKIN P*SS**S!!!!


Huh? who? What the hell. You suck, there goes your tip:laughing6

[A303]

I'm down...let ya boy know som'n :nod: Just dun let me forget them Oreos...

PM me your #
Ill call you when we figure out when and where, alot of MH guys goin

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

...there goes your tip:laughing6

Yuppers :nod:

[A303]

Ya'll better... Who all is it going to be??


If were early Koskesh and Los will make it
For sure kneedragger and ikp460, Max
We will see, i still havent even made plans lol

[Candy]

What's going on, can I come!

[A303]

What's going on, can I come!

Surely, nada, were just drinking for my bday, well, actually, we normally dont need occasions to drink, lol

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

What's going on, can I come!

Might as well ride with me...or I ride wit you....who gettin drunker ? :icon_bigg

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Surely, nada, were just drinking for my bday, well, actually, we normally dont need occasions to drink, lol

Dayum Alchy's :laughing6

[A303]

Might as well ride with me...or I ride wit you....who gettin drunker ? :icon_bigg


Me haha me!

[Candy]

As long as they got crown and coke, I'll drink til I pass out!!!

[A303]

As long as they got crown and coke, I'll drink til I pass out!!!

:eek3: :eek3: :eek3: :eek3:
Your invited.

[Crystalline]

BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! We got crown and coke.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

:eek3: :eek3: :eek3: :eek3:
Your invited.

:laughing6 ...guess I'm drivin then...

[A303]

:laughing6 ...guess I'm drivin then...


LMAO

Oh shit, its 11, i gotta open the restaurant:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6

[Crystalline]

OH YEA AND THERE IS A CRAWFISH BOIL ALL WEEKEND. $3/a lbs.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

OH YEA AND THERE IS A CRAWFISH BOIL ALL WEEKEND. $3/a lbs.

AWREADY...Gon get me some mudbugs too

MH night at Sam's...good shyt

[MadseasoN]

See, Imus also leads people to drinking!!! Damn Him!!! :keke:

[Candy]

AWREADY...Gon get me some mudbugs too

MH night at Sam's...good shyt

Hey post that $h!t under events, see who else we can get out!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Hey post that $h!t under events, see who else we can get out!!!

Bet that...so this is tonight right ? who's posting it? I wanna make sure not to have duplicate threads out there...

[A303]

Bet that...so this is tonight right ? who's posting it? I wanna make sure not to have duplicate threads out there...

Go ahead dude, most of the peeps already know where going out, just not where or when

[Slingblade92]

For those in outrage over the racist statements made by Imus, do you listen to rap music? If so, go cry to them to stop using the words. Then come talk others. If it's offensive for one to use, it's offensive for all to use. nuff said, he got fired now stfu about it :laughing6

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

For those in outrage over the racist statements made by Imus, do you listen to rap music? If so, go cry to them to stop using the words. Then come talk others. If it's offensive for one to use, it's offensive for all to use. nuff said, he got fired now stfu about it :laughing6

/\ coming from aguy who obviously hadn't read the whole thread...:keke:

[AliceInChains02]

let's argue about something. i have to go to class in 30 minutes

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

let's argue about something. i have to go to class in 30 minutes

OK...blue is not blue but rather a dark shade of redish mageta...our eyes only perceive it as blue :nod:

[AliceInChains02]

the gas particles in the sky absorb the blue spectrum from the light of the sun, radiating it and making the skies appear 'blue'

[AliceInChains02]

:dontknow:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

the gas particles in the sky absorb the blue spectrum from the light of the sun, radiating it and making the skies appear 'blue'

Ok, I can't take a position against this because it happens to be true...:eh:

[AliceInChains02]

ditto...well i don't know yours to be true, but i don't know it to be not true, so i can't argue either.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

ditto...well i don't know yours to be true, but i don't know it to be not true, so i can't argue either.

nah mines was retarded and untrue...lol...thanks for the vote of confidence tho :icon_thum

[jus10]

let's debate this.........

So a tree falls in the forest, no ones around to hear it....yadda yadda yadda does it make a sound?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

let's debate this.........

So a tree falls in the forest, no ones around to hear it....yadda yadda yadda does it make a sound?

Which segways into the question of what is truth. Is truth that which we can perceptively and tangibly identify or is there some absolute truth which to date has been incomprehensible to the human mind? Hmm :happy3:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

...oh yea, and I say it does- make a sound- because animals heard it and obviously moved out of the way. If there was a dead rabbit under the tree then I would have to offer the idea of a ninja tree...:nod:

[A303]

Which segways into the question of what is truth. Is truth that which we can perceptively and tangibly identify or is there some absolute truth which to date has been incomprehensible to the human mind? Hmm :happy3:


:confused2

[jus10]

...oh yea, and I say it does- make a sound- because animals heard it and obviously moved out of the way. If there was a dead rabbit under the tree then I would have to offer the idea of a ninja tree...:nod:

:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6


I guess I was supposed to say "no animals or people around to hear it..."


f.uckin "ninja tree"......:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6
awesome man....purely awesome!!!

[A303]

If a fat girl falls in the forest......do the trees laugh?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

If a fat girl falls in the forest......do the trees laugh?

Buwahahahahahaha :laughing6

[jus10]

If a fat girl falls in the forest......do the trees laugh?

they most certainly do!!!!!!! How could they possibly resist?!?!?!

[A303]

they most certainly do!!!!!!! How could they possibly resist?!?!?!


I knew it!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

they most certainly do!!!!!!! How could they possibly resist?!?!?!

*wonders if the ninja trees laugh too. Hmm? :happy3:

[A303]

*wonders if the ninja trees laugh too. Hmm? :happy3:

they do, probably some sort of ninja-laugh

[jus10]

*wonders if the ninja trees laugh too. Hmm? :happy3:

they laugh silently!!!! and if they are heard, they'll just kill you anyway!! It's the way of the ninja!

[A303]

Ask the knights of Ni.

[AliceInChains02]

only shrubs speak to Knights who say "Ni"

[Slingblade92]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingblade92
For those in outrage over the racist statements made by Imus, do you listen to rap music? If so, go cry to them to stop using the words. Then come talk others. If it's offensive for one to use, it's offensive for all to use. nuff said, he got fired now stfu about it


/\ coming from aguy who obviously hadn't read the whole thread...



Actually, I did read the whole thread, and when Crystal brought this up, you had no witty reply for it. So you can keep your gay laughing smiley and shove it up your double standard wanting azz.




Wait, that was probably a little out of line, but the fact still remains that I do not see Sharpton or Jackson protesting outside of recording studios screaming about the same wrong doings. I do not see them going into the inner city and trying to have gang members or anyone else using those words arrested for committing hate crimes. Till then, I'm gonna keep saying N, Ho, etc.


What's good for the goose is good for the gander, brotha.

[Candy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingblade92
For those in outrage over the racist statements made by Imus, do you listen to rap music? If so, go cry to them to stop using the words. Then come talk others. If it's offensive for one to use, it's offensive for all to use. nuff said, he got fired now stfu about it


/\ coming from aguy who obviously hadn't read the whole thread...



Actually, I did read the whole thread, and when Crystal brought this up, you had no witty reply for it. So you can keep your gay laughing smiley and shove it up your double standard wanting azz.




Wait, that was probably a little out of line, but the fact still remains that I do not see Sharpton or Jackson protesting outside of recording studios screaming about the same wrong doings. I do not see them going into the inner city and trying to have gang members or anyone else using those words arrested for committing hate crimes. Till then, I'm gonna keep saying N, Ho, etc.


What's good for the goose is good for the gander, brotha.

Actually u didnt read the thread bro, cause my rap loving ars is the 1 that raised the ? of whether or not our rappers should be filtered as well (see #100), Crystal's response was that rappers are getting paid to say these things Imus wasn't (see #103)

No pun intended dude!

[Moody]

Actually Imus was getting paid to say it as well. That is his job as a talk radio show host to say what he thinks. If you do not agree with him them don't listen to him and he would eventually go away but why attack his right to freedom of speech?

[Candy]

Actually Imus was getting paid to say it as well. That is his job as a talk radio show host to say what he thinks. If you do not agree with him them don't listen to him and he would eventually go away but why attack his right to freedom of speech?

I've agreed w/u 100% earlier in this thread!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Actually, I did read the whole thread, and when Crystal brought this up, you had no witty reply for it. So you can keep your gay laughing smiley and shove it up your double standard wanting azz.

[What I was gonna say] Obviously ya dumbass hadn't actually read the thread-or simply didn't comprehend it- because you were saying the same shyt that someone else (Crys, Candi, Myself) in the thread had already alluded to...Hip hop being a major contributor to the use of sexist and racially improper language at times. I didn't need to make a witty comment because I agree with the shyt. Where the fcuk is the double standard genius? :gesture:

What you said before:

For those in outrage over the racist statements made by Imus, do you listen to rap music? If so, go cry to them to stop using the words. Then come talk others. If it's offensive for one to use, it's offensive for all to use. nuff said, he got fired now stfu about it

What I had already said (post 85):

Sharpton and all these other supposed civil rights leaders have the perfect opportunity to address the use of this type of language on a grand scale but are too afraid of being scrutinized that they focus in on this Imus guy. Sure what he said was wrong but let the networks handle what they do with him. They should be focused on somebody like 50 or Jay who use the word ho so loosely that it has become a bit of an idiomatic expression amongst certain groups. I don't think Imus should be fired though because I feel that if you feel a certain way then dammit I'd like to know who you are...better the devil you know than the one you don't. Sharpton and others aren't, in my opinion, doing what it is they should be doing. :angry7:

So why don't you take your allusion to my having a double standard n shove it up in your ass...deal? :icon_thum

Wait, that was probably a little out of line, but the fact still remains that I do not see Sharpton or Jackson protesting outside of recording studios screaming about the same wrong doings. I do not see them going into the inner city and trying to have gang members or anyone else using those words arrested for committing hate crimes. Till then, I'm gonna keep saying N, Ho, etc.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, brotha.

[What I will say now that I read this] If it was out of line then you should have deleted it for me not to have read. I have already knocked Sharpton and Jackson for their lack of consistency. Do what you do, use the word freely...just watch who you use it with. What 's good for the goose is good for the gander...my pops said it all the time. Problem is, if you recognize there is a problem with hip hop and its use of derogatory language yet you persist in using the language, there is an inherent hypocrisy in atleast the last two posts I've seen from you.

Be easy...

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Actually Imus was getting paid to say it as well. That is his job as a talk radio show host to say what he thinks. If you do not agree with him them don't listen to him and he would eventually go away but why attack his right to freedom of speech?

He was not getting paid to said nappy headed hoes on the radio. I don't think he should have been fired but lets not act as if what he said was ok...

[MadseasoN]

:happy1:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

:happy1:

:laughing6

[Slingblade92]

I'll say this, if you don't like people using those words, then go to them for using them and making money off of it. When I use those words, I'm really meaning no harm. When people get mad at words I have a tendency to laugh, because it's WORDS. Kinda like the "Yo momma" stuff. I laugh myself silly watching people get all worked up to where they want to fight because someone said something about their mom. GROW UP. IT'S A WORD.

Let's not forget that while you all want there to be no racism, EVERYONE, read that again, EVERYONE has said something derogatory about another race. If you're gonna say that you haven't, you're a motherfuggin liar and you know it.

So, like the blacks always say, PEACE OUT.

[AliceInChains02]

hey denhou, i like your sig
(mad season was a super-band named after what brits dub their shroom season)

[AliceInChains02]

I'll say this, if you don't like people using those words, then go to them for using them and making money off of it. When I use those words, I'm really meaning no harm. When people get mad at words I have a tendency to laugh, because it's WORDS. Kinda like the "Yo momma" stuff. I laugh myself silly watching people get all worked up to where they want to fight because someone said something about their mom. GROW UP. IT'S A WORD.

Let's not forget that while you all want there to be no racism, EVERYONE, read that again, EVERYONE has said something derogatory about another race. If you're gonna say that you haven't, you're a motherfuggin liar and you know it.

So, like the blacks always say, PEACE OUT.

everyone's said something derogatory about another race?:laughing6
maybe jokingly, or in a moment of anger, but i've never seriously harbored any racist thoughts. that's a lot different then saying it with meaning, which is the problem. the problem's not people who say words that could be construed as racist, but people who are actually racist(because they're stupid)
just because you use words with no malice doesn't mean others who say the same things don't say it maliciously.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I'll say this, if you don't like people using those words, then go to them for using them and making money off of it. When I use those words, I'm really meaning no harm. When people get mad at words I have a tendency to laugh, because it's WORDS. Kinda like the "Yo momma" stuff. I laugh myself silly watching people get all worked up to where they want to fight because someone said something about their mom. GROW UP. IT'S A WORD.

Let's not forget that while you all want there to be no racism, EVERYONE, read that again, EVERYONE has said something derogatory about another race. If you're gonna say that you haven't, you're a motherfuggin liar and you know it.

So, like the blacks always say, PEACE OUT.

For the record: I'm black n I've NEVER said peace out...always thought it was a bit corny (not knocking n e one who does, that's just me). Let's chill with the generalizations. All white boys don't say "totally dude", all mexicans don't say "orda ley (sp?)", etc...

I'm with you on not getting all caught up in words, but if someone uses the word boy, n[][][]a, coon, etc with me, then I figure they are intentionally disrespecting me and challenging my manhood and I will promptly address the shyt. As far as rappers using the words, I've kinda fallen out with rap...I listen to it at times, but for the most part I stick to my jazz, ol school and reggae/dub. Rappers aren't really talkin about shyt anymore...Tupac was one of the last that actually had content to his material. Common, Mos, Talib and others are aight but they, for whatever reason, aren't able to reach out to the mainstream listeners. Thank you for toning down your rhetoric though...I personally respond alot better to positivity. :icon_thum

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

everyone's said something derogatory about another race?:laughing6
maybe jokingly, or in a moment of anger, but i've never seriously harbored any racist thoughts. that's a lot different then saying it with meaning, which is the problem. the problem's not people who say words that could be construed as racist, but people who are actually racist(because they're stupid)
just because you use words with no malice doesn't mean others who say the same things don't say it maliciously.

+1

[Candy]

[COLOR="DimGray"]Tupac was one of the last that actually had content to his material. Common, Mos, Talib and others are aight but they, for whatever reason, aren't able to reach out to the mainstream listeners.

+1, I'm eclectic, I listen to whateva!!!!

Generalizations suck, I've experienced a generalization on here. I was called a "Ghetto Ho" and for what, a joke!!! So EVERYONE has room for being a little more patient with each other, EACH AND EVERYONE OF US!!!

[AliceInChains02]

I'm with you on not getting all caught up in words, but if someone uses the word boy, n[][][]a, coon, etc with me, then I figure they are intentionally disrespecting me and challenging my manhood and I will promptly address the shyt.

I was wondering about something similar the other day. Some guy in one of my classes said "Excuse me, white boy", which totally caught me off guard. On one hand, he was being polite, asking me to move nicely, then he called me "white boy".
Is that an offensive term to you? I know it may be used casually by a lot of people, and maybe even embraced, but it still seems sort of condescending to me, like how you would feel if someone called you "boy"

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

+1, I'm eclectic, I listen to whateva!!!!

LMAO...hse ain't lying neither...that ring tone is a trip n a half.

Generalizations suck, I've experienced a generalization on here. I was called a "Ghetto Ho" and for what, a joke!!! So EVERYONE has room for being a little more patient with each other, EACH AND EVERYONE OF US!!!

Yup...funny nothing was said about that except by myself and obviously you. I did get a few pm's though recognizing ol buddy was wrong.:icon_thum But whatever, the past is the...moving on.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I was wondering about something similar the other day. Some guy in one of my classes said "Excuse me, white boy", which totally caught me off guard. On one hand, he was being polite, asking me to move nicely, then he called me "white boy".
Is that an offensive term to you? I know it may be used casually by a lot of people, and maybe even embraced, but it still seems sort of condescending to me, like how you would feel if someone called you "boy"

I think the way he said it was being completely disrespectful. You should have acted as if you didn't hear his ass. Or slapped the shyt out of him. :angry7:

[AliceInChains02]

I think the way he said it was being completely disrespectful. You should have acted as if you didn't hear his ass. Or slapped the shyt out of him. :angry7:

I'm pretty passive, but maybe I do need to get more violent. I guess I just wanted to know if "white boy" was considered an offensive term. One of my friends has a hat that says "crazy ass white boy" on it, so it's all very confusing. I guess it's just the context, right?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I'm pretty passive, but maybe I do need to get more violent. I guess I just wanted to know if "white boy" was considered an offensive term. One of my friends has a hat that says "crazy ass white boy" on it, so it's all very confusing. I guess it's just the context, right?

I wouldn't say get more violent. But you should definately not let people walk all over you. There are times to let things pass and there are times to properly address things, the decision is yours to make. I think you handled it right for the most part. No sense in getting kicked out of school for fighting, not good for your record in reapplying elsewhere, but I think you perhaps should have made it known that you did not appreciate it.

[jus10]

Sean, why is it considered offensive if I said "boy" to you....(this is how I use it) for example, "Damn boy, you see her ass?!?!?!" or "Boy was that a sick wheelie or what?!" would that be considered offensive? can you give me examples that you would consider offensive?

[jus10]

I'm pretty passive, but maybe I do need to get more violent. I guess I just wanted to know if "white boy" was considered an offensive term. One of my friends has a hat that says "crazy ass white boy" on it, so it's all very confusing. I guess it's just the context, right?

I'd be a little irritated...of course, I don't blow things out of proportion very often, and I feel it takes someone like that to freak out over something like that.....I mean...it IS the truth right? However, I don't feel the same would have taken place had you been the one who said it to a person of another race.

and why the f.uck is it that black and white folks are simply that...black or white, and everyone else "hispanic" or "asian" or some other bullshit!?!?! Damnit if I'm going to be color, so the f.cuk is everyone else!!! (on a typical day though, race is an excuse for division.....it's bullshit to me!)

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Sean, why is it considered offensive if I said "boy" to you....(this is how I use it) for example, "Damn boy, you see her ass?!?!?!" or "Boy was that a sick wheelie or what?!" would that be considered offensive? can you give me examples that you would consider offensive?

Perhaps I should have better qualified my statement. The way that you have illustrated your potential use of the term boy is koo. You would essentially be using it as more of a term of endearment than in some sort of condescending tone. What I am referring to is uses such as: boy...go get this, look here boy, boy...I told you to step out of the car, etc...Basically the way that you heard it being used back in the 60's and prior. :icon_thum

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I'd be a little irritated...of course, I don't blow things out of proportion very often, and I feel it takes someone like that to freak out over something like that.....I mean...it IS the truth right? However, I don't feel the same would have taken place had you been the one who said it to a person of another race.

and why the f.uck is it that black and white folks are simply that...black or white, and everyone else "hispanic" or "asian" or some other bullshit!?!?! Damnit if I'm going to be color, so the f.cuk is everyone else!!! (on a typical day though, race is an excuse for division.....it's bullshit to me!)

+1

[jus10]

Perhaps I should have better qualified my statement. The way that you have illustrated your potential use of the term boy is koo. You would essentially be using it as more of a term of endearment than in some sort of condescending tone. What I am referring to is uses such as: boy...go get this, look here boy, boy...I told you to step out of the car, etc...Basically the way that you heard it being used back in the 60's and prior. :icon_thum

Gotcha! Yeah those are shitty ways of using it....but to be honest, I think I would even get pissed if someone said that shit to me...that is condescending as hell!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Gotcha! Yeah those are shitty ways of using it....but to be honest, I think I would even get pissed if someone said that shit to me...that is condescending as hell!

Yep...n not even because it is racist, and it is...but I have a severe problem with authority and authoritative figures soooo....you kno the score. :laughing7

[TILLA THE KILLA]

Cajun i expect that you send me a pm whenever there is a good thread like this one here! I'm just now catching the tail end of this one, and you sir have done well. I haven't had a chance to get into some juicy dialogue since the scholarships debate.

[Moody]

:hiding: I've agreed w/u 100% earlier in this thread!!!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Cajun i expect that you send me a pm whenever there is a good thread like this one here! I'm just now catching the tail end of this one, and you sir have done well. I haven't had a chance to get into some juicy dialogue since the scholarships debate.

Lol *note to self, inform Big Tilla on all intellectual threads from now on* I'll be sure to get at ya, preciate it and yeah it was a good one...I'm just glad that, for the most part-until very recently- it stayed tactful and intellectually sound.

[Moody]

Yep...n not even because it is racist, and it is...but I have a severe problem with authority and authoritative figures soooo....you kno the score. :laughing7
Seeing as how I have had a lack of a father figure in my life anybody calling me boy usually gets a new understanding of disrespect. Had a run in with a guy I worked with when I was about 20 who though he could call me boy and question the holes in my ear.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Seeing as how I have had a lack of a father figure in my life anybody calling me boy usually gets a new understanding of disrespect. Had a run in with a guy I worked with when I was about 20 who though he could call me boy and question the holes in my ear.

Sorry to hear that, but glad you are willing to stand up for yourself:icon_thum ...I had my pops around but I think I inherited his animosity towards authority figures...hence, why I am planning on opening my own business(es)...:nod:

[jus10]

Sorry to hear that, but glad you are willing to stand up for yourself:icon_thum ...I had my pops around but I think I inherited his animosity towards authority figures...hence, why I am planning on opening my own business(es)...:nod:

got that same problem here....been talkin with my brother about going into business for ourselves, 'cause we can't work for the man...

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

got that same problem here....been talkin with my brother about going into business for ourselves, 'cause we can't work for the man...

lol...you do web too right? I do that on the side but I'm thinking of doing some type of bar/restaurant type thing...don't know yet. Tryin to do market analysis' to see what type of ambiance people are seeking...n I'm gonna do web on the side obviously, easy money

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Just something I picked up off another board: cause it seems like yall are talking racisim and yes I did read all the pages. I don't care what color you are or what race you are, we are all purple. But why is it okay for people of the same race to use words that the other race cannot, because it is RACIST. BS live life to the fullest and have fun, life is not a black, white, asian ect thing. Just be more respectful of each other.



Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman." And that's OK.
But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...

You call me a racist
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund.

You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month.

You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Yom Hashoah.

You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television)
..We'd be racist
If we had a White Pride Day
.. You would call us racist
If we had White History Month
.. We'd be racist
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives
.. We'd be racist
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racist
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges"
..THAT would be a college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
...You would call us racist
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride
.. You call us racist
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society
.. You call him a racist
I am proud.
But you call me a racist
Why is it that only whites can be racist ????


Now who is being racist ?????

I was going to leave this thread alone but taht post is filled with garbage. It is a delusional piece that references neither history nor accurantly assesses what racism truly is. This part burns me up:

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society
.. You call him a racist

...I mean, it's as if it assumes there are no black, hispanic, or other types of cops AND it seems to fall under the presumption of there being no white carjackers, robbers, thieves, crackheads, etc. This is garbage and is a complete spin on a subject that WE ALL know is human problem and not a racial/cultural specific one.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

So what in your eyes is considered racism, at what point do we get rid of racism and just start living lives. Am I suppose to pay for what people did centurys ago to other races ??? The piece was taken off another board, wouldnt say it was all delusional or accurately assesses the way some things are precieved. Is there a white college funds ??? If we did a white march how would that be precieved ??

Racism is by definition "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races". How is it that BET which occasionally features whites, even Paul Wall videos is racist by that definition. How is a million man march whose intent was to register black voters who would not have otherwise been registered, racist. It's not, although there were entities who took place in the march are antagonististic towards whites, the march as a whole was not oriented toward being antagonistic towards whites but rather, to registar black voters. There is nothing wrong with uplifting oneself. No you are not supposed to pay for what happened years ago but you will acknowledge it. How are you paying for it now? You're not, Indians get reparations but somehow blacks aren't entitled to anything...but I digress and that is another discussion. Now back to the main topic, are we as black supposed to simply forget? I surely would hope not, to forget history is to allow fertile ground for the event to reemerge. Actually there ARE white only funds! Click here (http://people.bu.edu/colrepub/Caucasian%20Achievement%20and%20Recognition%20Scho larship.html). There are WHITE MARCHES, the KKK just had one up in Waco a few months ago. Kill that noise!

I understand that statement makes sense, it does presume a lot, but what is the population of the prison system made of ????

Everyone has there views, I could care less what anyones colors are, but this was from another board and was from a white point of view obviously, doesn't make it right but not all wrong either. It is an opinion and that is it, does it mean that they should get fired also for writing such stuff ???

The statement DOES NOT make sense. It's full of generalizations and conjecture. It's simply stupid. Who cares what the prison systems mostly consists of, all that says to me is that cops tend to pay more attention to blue collar crimes than white collar crimes and that only the small fish get caught while the small fish are fried frequently. Why is that dope cases and crimes like that carry 20+ year sentenses while child molestation and accounting fraud carry minimal sentences with the possibility for parole on good behavior? We can go all day but the opinion, imo, is absolutely out of touch with reality and is more divisive than anything. Carries a bit of a bigot-esq air with it.

It is an opinion and that is it, does it mean that they should get fired also for writing such stuff ???

You said you read the thread but if you actually had then you would know that I had said, on multiple occasions that he SHOULD NOT have been fired. :angry7:

[jus10]

yeah, why was it that this thread turned into a race issue anyway??? It wasn't even about that in the first f ucking place!!! It was an unnecessary comment....and that is all.

[Moody]

yeah, why was it that this thread turned into a race issue anyway??? It wasn't even about that in the first f ucking place!!! It was an unnecessary comment....and that is all.
Possibly because the race pushers Al Sharkton and Jesse Jackasson got involved in the removal of Imus from his radio show. :dontknow:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman." And that's OK.
But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...

You call me a racist

PURE STUPIDITY. African-Americans are those individuals born in Africa and migrate to America. Same goes for Asians, Mexicans and others. If you are born here in America, then you are damn American. I wonder who this cat was referring to when he offered: And then there are just Americans. I don't call whites "crackers", "honkeys", "whitey's" or any other racial epithet...so I dare a mu'fugga to say the opposite in my face.


You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

ANOTHER DUMBASS STATEMENT insisted with an air of magnanimity. What exactly is a ghetto? White's stay in ghettos, projects, hoods, trailer parks, etc too. Lets not act as if black and other minorities are the contributors to violence around the world.


You have the United Negro College Fund.

You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month.

You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Yom Hashoah.

Well let me look at the damn calendar:

St. Patrick's Day
Washington's Birthday
Lincoln's Birthday
Columbus Day

fuk outta heah with that garbage...:gesture:

You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television)
..We'd be racist
If we had a White Pride Day
.. You would call us racist
If we had White History Month
.. We'd be racist
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives [Ever hear of the KKK]
.. We'd be racist
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?[Me too]
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships [THERE ARE]
... You know we'd be racist
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges"
..THAT would be a college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, :angry7:
...You would call us racist
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride
.. You call us racist
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society :gesture: [Simply not comprehensive enough and is inconsiderate to facts of reality]
.. You call him a racist
I am proud.
But you call me a racist
Why is it that only whites can be racist ????


Now who is being racist ?????

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

That is correct, a lot of what goes on in life doesn't make a lot of sense. Opinions are like A$$holes we all have one. This doesn't reflect what I believe but some people are stupid and believe some of the view that I posted. Doen't make it right or wrong just a view or opinion. As my post was only general and not pointed directly at you or anyone.

Sadly, you highlighted two things without regard to what the most important part of that staement was...sad :angry7:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Ding ding we have a winner!!

Cajuns: your words : although there were entities who took place in the march are antagonististic towards whites

Again your words: Racism is by definition "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races".

How is it okay for some entities that were at the march and lead the march not racist or make it a racist venue ?? , they are antagonististic towards whites, but that is not racist ???

Just curious ???

You forgot the fact that I said: the march as a whole was not oriented toward being antagonistic towards whites but rather, to registar black voters. That's like the most important part of that section of the paragraph yet you omitted it. Funny how that works. Your logic is not adding up! It's not ok for them to lead it. They weren't the only ones to take part in it. Sometimes though, one must do things in order to reach an end. Did we like giving Saddam Hussein weapons in the 80's? No, but we did it because the means, in that case, justified the end. Do you even know the stated purpose of the million man march? I doubt it. If you are going to take issue with something then take it with the black panthers of the 60's...atleast you actually have more ground to stand on.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree, as I have my opinions and beliefs as you have yours. As none of this is my opinion, or reflect anything or everything that I believe in at all. I have no hate in my body, no time for the stupid $hit. I could care less what anyones nationality is or anything. Only thing that matters to me are you a GOOD person. So dont miss understand anything I have posted.

Great....agree to disagree :icon_thum I agree with the base point of your statement: I could care less what anyones nationality is or anything. Only thing that matters to me are you a GOOD person. Don't let retards like the one you posted steer your decision making or cloud your judgement and shape your worldview. That statement was a generalization and general statements are generally stupid.

[jus10]

"totally dude!!!"


HAHAHAHA right Sean?

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

I totally agree, it is just amazing what people believe in. But that does not dictate what I do or what my beliefs are. I am a GOOD person and will continue to be a GOOD person. I have made mistakes as does everyone else in life, I am not perfect. But I can tell you that I would and always have helped out strangers no matter what color or race they are and will continue to do so. So always know if I am ever around that I will help anyone in any situation, including you :icon_thum

Preciate it and I am glad to know you don't share unknown posters sentiments...people like that are actually the poroblem in society today, white and black alike.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

"totally dude!!!"


HAHAHAHA right Sean?

LMAO :laughing6 ...:happy3:

[A303]

This thread came back on track i see huh? hmmmm

[jus10]

This thread came back on track i see huh? hmmmm

it was the ninja trees really...we owe it to them!

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

it was the ninja trees really...we owe it to them!

Yea, the bastuuds dropped kicked me while I wasn't lookin but I somer-saulted(sp?) and responded with an anaconda choke...the others got scurd n bounced :icon_bigg

[jus10]

Yea, the bastuuds dropped kicked me while I wasn't lookin but I somer-saulted(sp?) and responded with an anaconda choke...the others got scurd n bounced :icon_bigg

<----eye witness!!!

[MadseasoN]

Here's another guy about to lose his job for something he said

http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/entertainment/4722656.html

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Here's another guy about to lose his job for something he said

http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/entertainment/4722656.html

I don't seems like it is deserving because as a public safety official, he is basically doing the same thing the NWA did back in the early 90's. I don't think within that capacity, he should be alluding to killing cops...jus seems wrong. If he wants to rap about it, then be prepared for your public servitude to be cut short.