Scholarship for WHITES only? Discuss amongst yourselves....

[TxVrod]

http://snipurl.com/12wj7

BU group offers white scholarship
Award meant to protest race-based scholarships

Clarissa Bottesini
Issue date: 11/21/06 Section: News

Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

"Did we do this to give a scholarship to white kids? Of course not," the scholarship reads. "Did we do it to trigger a discussion on what we believe to be the morally wrong practice of basing decisions in our schools and our jobs on racial preferences rather than merit? Absolutely."

The scholarship, which is privately funded by the BUCR without the support of the university, is meant to raise awareness, group members say. BUCR member argue that racial preferences are a form of "bigotry." The group has a similar view on affirmative action.

The application for the $250 scholarship, due Nov. 30, requires applicants be full-time BU undergraduate students and one-fourth Caucasian and maintain at least a 3.2 cumulative GPA. Applicants must submit two essays, one describing the applicant's ancestry and one describing "what it means to you to be a Caucasian-American today."

BUCR President Joe Mroszczyk said he spoke to Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore before publicly releasing the scholarship to make sure it would be legal. Mroszczyk said BUCR members also talked to others beforehand, some of whom were initially "agitated or upset" but understood the point after members explained themselves, he said.

"If you give out a white scholarship, it's racist, and if you give out a Hispanic scholarship, it is OK," the College of Arts and Sciences senior said. "It is the main point. We are not doing this scholarship as a white-supremacy scholarship."

La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said although she agrees with BUCR's claim that racial preference is "contradictory to our American ideals of freedom and equality," she feels American history justifies today's affirmative action." Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects," the School of Management senior said in an email. "The goal of a university in striving to admit more students of color is a positive movement to increase the diversity of its institution."

Pons said the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

"While I can see the controversy over scholarships toward specific ethnic groups, we need to keep in mind its intention," she said. "The [group-specific] scholarship is there to increase the interest of students in that group to continue their education and reach the equality that we all strive for."

After the recipient is chosen, BUCR plans to host an event to honor the winner and speak about the award, as well as hold a forum discussion about racial preference, Mroszczyk said.

Mroszczyk said the BUCR borrowed the scholarship idea from the College Republicans at Roger Williams University in Bristol, R.I., which sponsored a similar award in 2003. Former RWU College Republicans President Jason Mattera said the "whites-only" scholarship was meant to be a parody, but it brought harsh media attention to their campus.

Mattera, now the Young American's Foundation National Spokesman, a group supporting the conservative movement, said the idea was spurred when RWU administrators "compiled a list of scholarships for people of color only." Although Mattera, a Puerto Rican, would have been eligible for some of these scholarships, he said he still wanted to "expose the inequities."

RWU College Republicans adviser June Speakman said the organization started receiving complaints as soon as it released the scholarship. Despite protests, 15 students applied for the scholarship.

"It was a way to make their protests highly visible, provocative," she said. "They stuck to their guns. They were steadfast."

Speakman said the scholarship was discontinued after its first year when the national and state Republican parties severed ties with RWU College Republicans.

Mattera said people were aware the scholarship had "nothing to do with racism," but the Republican National Committee still did not want to be affiliated with the scholarship.

"The RNC under [former chair] Ed Gillespie disagreed with me," Mattera said. "For Ed Gillespie to be dismissive or to imply that there was racism, he lacked any type of -- to put it bluntly -- balls in standing up against racial preferences. It would have been a great opportunity."

Regarding BU's adaptation of this scholarship, Mattera said he is glad the BUCR is interested in continuing to promote awareness.

"I guarantee that once this happens, be ready for hypocritical charges of racism, and be ready to be attacked," Mattera said, "but once they attack you, the hypocrisy is exposed."

[scrapp]

:icon_thum

Great Idea, Theres nothing for me to say, they put all my points in the article. Let them bitch. if every other race gets a scholarship, then EVERY RACE gets one.

You want to talk about people continuing racisim? Well then look to the people who are not white.

[ArturoC]

No problem here.


Either every group can do it, or none. :nod:

[Gigolo Jason]

Great idea. There should have more of these.

[ScooterTrash]

No problem here.


Either every group can do it, or none. :nod:
agreed, but bet your paycheck there will be those that scream and cry "Racism"

[ArturoC]

agreed, but bet your paycheck there will be those that scream and cry "Racism"




No doubt. Sad. :eh:

[AliceInChains02]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?

[TxVrod]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?

:nod:

[scrapp]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?
Ask that to the people OF COLOR who keep making these sholarships.
Like I said, Its not white people who continue the name of racisim.
The reason they are even making this sholarship is to PROVE A POINT.
Granted it doesnt help diminish racisim, but hopefully it will tell people to fcuking grow up and learn.

[hotcknstrips]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?


Correct, I never understood that. I'm brown, but that doesn't mean i deserve to be put at the front of the lin, ahead of the whiteys, it just isn't fair.

[Tiller1k]

I can only say that it is ABOUT TIME! I have had a bug up my ass about this for years. I am glad that someone has done it. It creates good debate and brings up the issue of equality vs. protected status/special treatment/affirmative action. I hope this blows up and appears in the national spotlight rather than limited local coverage and blogs.

[zero_cool]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?
+1

[arturo3rd]

most minority scholarships are usually funded by minority groups and companies. if a "white" comapny wants to fund one for a white kid, thats the same thing.

[zero_cool]

i don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. what does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?
unfornutally there are scholorships based on ethnicity and i believe it was a African-American organization who first did it. personally i don't see a damn thing wrong with a Caucasion Scholorship and in fact i think the idea is ****ing genius. anybody who finds this racist can eat a dick. i see racism directed towards whites all the damn time but its o.k. cause white folks aren't the "minority":gesture: . i would like to see what would happen if a white person applied for a grant from the United NEGRO College Fund. do you think they would get a single ****ing dime? if Afro-Americans can pull that bullshit, why the hell can't white folks?

[zero_cool]

Correct, I never understood that. I'm brown, but that doesn't mean i deserve to be put at the front of the lin, ahead of the whiteys, it just isn't fair.
but it does mean you get great health benefits if your in Texas. :icon_thum

[Zrob25]

I'm just waiting for this african american thing to go away. Just because your black does not make you african american. Be real nice if people would just be proud to be american then maybe we could have a United american college fund that catered to no one.

[zero_cool]

I'm just waiting for this african american thing to go away. Just because your black does not make you african american. Be real nice if people would just be proud to be american then maybe we could have a United american college fund that catered to no one.
or one that catered to everyone.

[hotcknstrips]

but it does mean you get great health benefits if your in Texas. :icon_thum


hahahaha, you fooker.!:laughing6

[PSYCHO1000]

http://snipurl.com/12wj7

BU group offers white scholarship
Award meant to protest race-based scholarships

Clarissa Bottesini
Issue date: 11/21/06 Section: News

Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

"Did we do this to give a scholarship to white kids? Of course not," the scholarship reads. "Did we do it to trigger a discussion on what we believe to be the morally wrong practice of basing decisions in our schools and our jobs on racial preferences rather than merit? Absolutely."

The scholarship, which is privately funded by the BUCR without the support of the university, is meant to raise awareness, group members say. BUCR member argue that racial preferences are a form of "bigotry." The group has a similar view on affirmative action.

The application for the $250 scholarship, due Nov. 30, requires applicants be full-time BU undergraduate students and one-fourth Caucasian and maintain at least a 3.2 cumulative GPA. Applicants must submit two essays, one describing the applicant's ancestry and one describing "what it means to you to be a Caucasian-American today."

BUCR President Joe Mroszczyk said he spoke to Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore before publicly releasing the scholarship to make sure it would be legal. Mroszczyk said BUCR members also talked to others beforehand, some of whom were initially "agitated or upset" but understood the point after members explained themselves, he said.

"If you give out a white scholarship, it's racist, and if you give out a Hispanic scholarship, it is OK," the College of Arts and Sciences senior said. "It is the main point. We are not doing this scholarship as a white-supremacy scholarship."

La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said although she agrees with BUCR's claim that racial preference is "contradictory to our American ideals of freedom and equality," she feels American history justifies today's affirmative action." Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects," the School of Management senior said in an email. "The goal of a university in striving to admit more students of color is a positive movement to increase the diversity of its institution."

Pons said the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

"While I can see the controversy over scholarships toward specific ethnic groups, we need to keep in mind its intention," she said. "The [group-specific] scholarship is there to increase the interest of students in that group to continue their education and reach the equality that we all strive for."

After the recipient is chosen, BUCR plans to host an event to honor the winner and speak about the award, as well as hold a forum discussion about racial preference, Mroszczyk said.

Mroszczyk said the BUCR borrowed the scholarship idea from the College Republicans at Roger Williams University in Bristol, R.I., which sponsored a similar award in 2003. Former RWU College Republicans President Jason Mattera said the "whites-only" scholarship was meant to be a parody, but it brought harsh media attention to their campus.

Mattera, now the Young American's Foundation National Spokesman, a group supporting the conservative movement, said the idea was spurred when RWU administrators "compiled a list of scholarships for people of color only." Although Mattera, a Puerto Rican, would have been eligible for some of these scholarships, he said he still wanted to "expose the inequities."

RWU College Republicans adviser June Speakman said the organization started receiving complaints as soon as it released the scholarship. Despite protests, 15 students applied for the scholarship.

"It was a way to make their protests highly visible, provocative," she said. "They stuck to their guns. They were steadfast."

Speakman said the scholarship was discontinued after its first year when the national and state Republican parties severed ties with RWU College Republicans.

Mattera said people were aware the scholarship had "nothing to do with racism," but the Republican National Committee still did not want to be affiliated with the scholarship.

"The RNC under [former chair] Ed Gillespie disagreed with me," Mattera said. "For Ed Gillespie to be dismissive or to imply that there was racism, he lacked any type of -- to put it bluntly -- balls in standing up against racial preferences. It would have been a great opportunity."

Regarding BU's adaptation of this scholarship, Mattera said he is glad the BUCR is interested in continuing to promote awareness.

"I guarantee that once this happens, be ready for hypocritical charges of racism, and be ready to be attacked," Mattera said, "but once they attack you, the hypocrisy is exposed."



That's RIGHT Bitches! It's about F***ing time! I'm so sick and tired of all this ethnicity-based B.S., but if it's white-based then it's racial!:nod: :icon_thum

[zero_cool]

That's RIGHT Bitches! It's about F***ing time! I'm so sick and tired of all this ethnicity-based B.S., but if it's white-based then it's racial!:nod: :icon_thum
anyone who organizes, recieves funds from, or supports a racially discriminative scholorship program is a complete fuk tard. if you feel you deserve or are entitled to a money just because of your ethnic heritage, you should go home and shoot yourself in the face. have some pride and pay your own way through college like the rest of us.

[Zrob25]

If anyone deserves it it's the indians

[Rick H.I.C.]

agreed, but bet your paycheck there will be those that scream and cry "Racism"
I'm sure the ACLU shitbag lawyers are all over it. Good to see a change if it is actually any good.:icon_bigg

[MadseasoN]

People of all races deserve help. Read up on Appalachian whites - some of the poorest people in the country. Business and Government intentionally dumbed down these people to keep them working for the lowest wages.

[Rick H.I.C.]

People of all races deserve help. Read up on Appalachian whites - some of the poorest people in the country. Business and Government intentionally dumbed down these people to keep them working for the lowest wages.
Democrats like them that way. Don't do anything to improve your life yourself, vote for me and I'll make sure your welfare check gets bigger one day.:icon_bigg

[TILLA THE KILLA]

Whoa this this is my first time checking out the non moto portion of the board. And I'm surprised by how much ignorance I just saw in one thread.

Before I begin let me state this. I have no problem with a white only scholarship. As mentioned before most scholorships are privately funded. So if you or your business want to pay for green martians to get an engineering degree then by all means go ahead. But don't get upset when a minority organization or business decides to put back into their community and uplift that community with educational opportunities.

I won't respond to everything that bugged me but I'll respond to some of the concepts and theory's that irked me.

1. Affirmative Action- the roots of affirmative action actually were found in business. Up until the 60's and 70's big business did everything in its power to keep minorities and women out of the workplace. The government did something about this by only giving contracts to companies that tried to have some kind of diversity. This was the first form of affirmative action. It later spread to education. However today it is against the law to have set quotas in public universities. So what is your gripe?

2. "The only racism is that of non-whites." Are you kidding me? It's this type of ignorance that allows for racism to fester. It's much easier to dismiss it, and push it under a rug. It's much easier to point the finger at other injustices, rather than to confront the fact that this country has a legitimate and very serious race problem.

3. Zrob ---"If anyone deserves it it's the Indians." Your comment was so ignorant I almost decided to overlook it. But sorry I guess over 400 years of slavery, a 100 years of being considered property and not citizens, 200 years of denial of suffrage (the right to vote for those of you with an elementary education), 350 years of the demasculinization of our men, and raping of our women doesn't count for anything does it? And don't come with the lame argument, that was then and this is now crap. Because this country has always paid for its wrongdoings towards injured parties (japanese internment camps for example).

I could go on, but this is almost too sad to be humorous.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

And the biggest benafactors of affirmative action are women. Do your research.

[scrapp]

You do realize, slavery was at first OK. The first slaves offerd up their life as payment for crime. the african leaders sold them to america for money, and they would come work over here.
It later then turned into the slavery you know.

you have to explain to me HOW in the hell is offering a scholarship to indians ignorent as possible? WE STOLE THEIR LAND, WE OPPRESNED THE SHIT OUT OF THEM (granted there is history that states the indians stole the land from someone else)

[TILLA THE KILLA]

You do realize, slavery was at first OK. The first slaves offerd up their life as payment for crime. the african leaders sold them to america for money, and they would come work over here.
It later then turned into the slavery you know.

you have to explain to me HOW in the hell is offering a scholarship to indians ignorent as possible? WE STOLE THEIR LAND, WE OPPRESNED THE SHIT OUT OF THEM (granted there is history that states the indians stole the land from someone else)


Slavery is never Ok no matter who does it. And if you know your history the type of slavery in Africa was totally different to the "peculiar institution" found in America.

2nd you must have a problem reading. I said that I have no problem with anyone giving anybody a scholarship. It's your money and who you choose to give it to is your business. My point was don't try to devalue the oppresion felt by blacks in this country.

[scrapp]

Europeans bought slaves who were captured in wars between African kingdoms and chiefdoms. Conviction of a crime was another way to become a slave. Since most of these nations did not have a prison system, convict slaves were often sold.
African slaves were transported from these markets to the coast and sold at European trading ports in exchange for muskets and manufactured goods such as cloth or alcohol.

Some people were held in bondagwe as security for debts, others had been sold into servitude by their kin often in exchange for food, still others were war captives. Allthough treated as property, and exploited as agriculture laborers, slaves usually were considerd members of the society that had enslavesd them and sometimes were treated as kin.


made me go and bring out my history book. So more or less slavery was brought apon by its own people, allthough yes, they were treated diffrently then the ones who were brought to america.

Let me quote you:
"If anyone deserves it it's the Indians." Your comment was so ignorant I almost decided to overlook it.
do you not remember what we did to the indians? it started much sooner then what we did to black people, and at times was much more worse. we practically genocided them, and took their land.

Also, dont forget, not just america was involed in slavery, so was britan, spain, portigul, denmark....I could go on, but yes, the fact is america took that much longer to rid itself of slavery.

Yes, my point is, IM SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPEND IN THE PAST, DO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, GET A STIFF UPPER LIP, AN EDUCATION, AND MAKE YOURSELF BETTER. Dont sit around waiting for someone to make it better for you. if the goverment did pay off every black person to say "im sorry" that wouldnt change shit. Someone would still bitch about they did not get paid enough, and 99.9% of those people would not drop it and better their lives.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

You obviously still can't understand my quote. I thought I explained it adequately enough. The IGNORANCE was in thinking that only Indians deserved it. I hope I broke that down for you. And as far as your bringing your history book out I don't see how that proved anything. I conceded that there was slavery in Africa, and you conceded that the type of slavery was much different in America.

And as far as education is concerned I have a BA. in Political Science, a Masters in Public Administration, I'm currently working on my MBA and I start Law School in the fall. Oh and I teach history.

And I think you were trying to comment on reparations. The argument that you made concerning the stiff upper lip has holes. The major one being if the government has wronged a party it must make amends. Its fallacious to assume that because the of the percieved outcome that the amends are not necessary.

[scrapp]

Should we give reparations to the scotish?
I just think this kind of shit needs to be dropped. theres no way we can repay black people for what happend in the past. its a waste of goverment money, and nothing good will come out of it. asking for repay, and color specific scholarships just continues racisim. What about the white kid who was born in africa, and was denied an african american scholarship? he was more african then the africans in america.

[Faylaricia]

The major one being if the government has wronged a party it must make amends.

How is the government involved in this particular topic? From what I learnt (and please ignore my ignorance as I was not born in the US) is that the laws were passed but it took a much longer time for the society to accept and follow the laws. Also, the government is made up by people. How can the people today be responsible for what people did in the past and why should people today pay for that?

[TILLA THE KILLA]

How is the government involved in this particular topic? From what I learnt (and please ignore my ignorance as I was not born in the US) is that the laws were passed but it took a much longer time for the society to accept and follow the laws. Also, the government is made up by people. How can the people today be responsible for what people did in the past and why should people today pay for that?


I think you were trying to say learned instead of learnt. But here goes your answer. The government of the US. from it's inception has been waist deep in slavery. From making laws that support it to punishing people who fought against it, that's how the government is involved. For reference look up the 3/5ths compromise, Missouri Compromise, and the Compromise of 1850.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

and Scrapp thanks for your last post, I truly needed the laugh

[Faylaricia]

I think you were trying to say learned instead of learnt.

Europeans say learnt. Sorry.

Learned/Learnt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/radio/specials/1535_questionanswer/page50.shtml

/grammar threadjack

[scrapp]

Im here for comic relif.
But my point still stands. Fcuk your color, just be a person, and stop looking for special attention.
If thats the card they want to play, then kudos to this school for making a white only scholarship.
martin king worked for equality, I dont remember it ever being about payback. we would have equality, if people would stop saying "hey, Im diffrent, I want something more then him"


I woke up in this world living my own life, just like everyone else of this generation, and hundreds of generations before.
I never experianced any type of slavery, just like everyone else of this generation, and hungreds of generations before.
I will not pay the people of this generation for something that none of us ever experiance.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

I woke up in this world experiencing covert, and overt racism since day one. That is something that my generation has experienced and is experiencing. The biggest floating misconception is that racism isn't rampant and very much alive. And that more than anything in my opinion is the tragedy. Malcom X once said you don't stick a knife in a man's back 6 inch, pull it out 3 inches, and call it progress.

And Patricia I apoligize for the mistake. I didn't know that about European vernacular. I learn something new everyday!!

[scrapp]

I go ahead and quit from this argument. This kind of stuff never goes anywhere anyway.

In conclusion, the way I feel is, a country cannot move forward if we keep focusing on what happened in the past. Yes we must remember the past to not allow it to happen again, And from what ive learned, alot of people in the past were ignorent. its because we learn more and more over the previous generation.
Someone at some point is going to look at our generation and go "jesus, what the hell was up with them, why did it take so long for people to drop that? Good thing we all live as equals now"
Unfortunally, its going to take quite a few more generations to get to that point, if things keep going as they are.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

I go ahead and quit from this argument. This kind of stuff never goes anywhere anyway.

In conclusion, the way I feel is, a country cannot move forward if we keep focusing on what happened in the past. Yes we must remember the past to not allow it to happen again, And from what ive learned, alot of people in the past were ignorent. its because we learn more and more over the previous generation.
Someone at some point is going to look at our generation and go "jesus, what the hell was up with them, why did it take so long for people to drop that? Good thing we all live as equals now"
Unfortunally, its going to take quite a few more generations to get to that point, if things keep going as they are.

I'll drop it also, and I can only keep praying that that day will come. Hopefully in my lifetime. :hs:

[scrapp]

at least you and me can be Vtwin brothers. Even though suzukis is rabbid dog poo!:icon_bigg

[TILLA THE KILLA]

at least you and me can be Vtwin brothers. Even though suzukis is rabbid dog poo!:icon_bigg


Yes indeed:icon_thum We have to go riding someday.

[jetcycles]

3. Zrob ---"If anyone deserves it it's the Indians." Your comment was so ignorant I almost decided to overlook it. But sorry I guess over 400 years of slavery, a 100 years of being considered property and not citizens, 200 years of denial of suffrage (the right to vote for those of you with an elementary education), 350 years of the demasculinization of our men, and raping of our women doesn't count for anything does it? And don't come with the lame argument, that was then and this is now crap. Because this country has always paid for its wrongdoings towards injured parties (japanese internment camps for example).

I could go on, but this is almost too sad to be humorous.

are you or have you ever been enslaved? We(Indians) were here way before the europeans. your ancestors were forced to work. . .mine were slaughtered and forced to sign retarted peace treaties they did not understand. I'm for from being racist, so don't take this the wrong way, but at least you still have ancestors around to complain about how bad it WAS, 95% of mine are all gone.

on to the scholarships. . .im all for it!!!!!!!!!!

[TILLA THE KILLA]

Jet--I'm pretty much through with this thread.

But a couple points. My ancestors were forced to do much more than work. And no my ancestors are not around for me to complain to because they are ANCESTORS!!!! The laughs keep coming.

[jetcycles]

Jet--I'm pretty much through with this thread.

But a couple points. My ancestors were forced to do much more than work. And no my ancestors are not around for me to complain to because they are ANCESTORS!!!! The laughs keep coming.
I'm glad you're through, you must have missed my point.:nod:
my point was, my ancestors were SLAUGHTERED, not enslaved dude. go ahead and check out on thread. . .

back to the scholarships. . .it's been a long time coming, I'm glad to see some people stil have enough sack to make a positive change

[Gigolo Jason]

My ancestors came here on ships and brought their guns. :icon_thum :icon_bigg

[zero_cool]

i still stand by what i said before. i feel blacks started the first racially discriminative scholorship program as a way of testing the nuts of white Americans. so what if some white folks want to do the same thing. it should have been done a long time ago. i think everybody should quit worrying about that color thier skin is and realize were all stuck on this rock together. we shouldn't dwell on what happened in the past, we should learn from it. whites stole America from the Indians and now blacks and Mexicans are stealing it from the whites. its a vicious cycle see? i do feel that blacks have been pushing it over the past ten years or so with all the bullshit they think they deserve just because of thier skin color. your great great great grandpa was a slave, so fukn what, your not. your house was under 14 feet of water and you lost everything, so fukn what, you should have bought insurance like everyone else.

i will admit, some of the nicest people i have ever met were black but unfortunatlly the majority of blacks are trash and are looking to make it through life doing as little as possible and take every handout they can get thier hands on. i have had 2 white friends murdered by black people. none by white people. i have been mugged by black people. never by white people. i have been robbed 3 times times by black people, twice at gunpoint. never by white people. numbers don't lie.

another thing that urks me is you can't go to Deerbrook mall on a friday or saturday night without getting sideways ass stares from a bunch of fake a$$ FooBooed out punks. they're everywhere. if its not that its a 325 pound 6 foot 3 sister named Bonquita, her mom same height only a bit fatter, and her 7 chillin; Shonquita, Moquita, Trequita, Shantell, Trumain, Tyrell and Tyrone running amuck and screaming half way across the mall in ebonics. that $hit is not normal and the general public frowns upon that kind of behavior. i try not to be racist and i prefer to judge every person on an individual basis but 95%+ of the blacks i'm surrounded by i wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. its easier to just assume the next black i see is gonna be just as trashy as the one before.

the whole concept of racially based scholorships or financial aid programs is bull$hit. if a person has the ambition to learn, they should be rewarded for thier ambition and not thier skin color.

just out of curiosity TILLA THE KILLA...
how is your schooling funded? student loans? grants?
i know an MBA doesn't come cheap.

[TILLA THE KILLA]

Zero your name is a very appropriate. You had so many fallacies in your argument that I honestly don't have time to fully take them all on. I've seen you on other threads with your offensive remarks. I've heard of your myspace page. I could go over all of the injustices that have been brought on to me by people not of my color. But that would be a waste of time. Your comments and you truly don't warrant a response. At least with Scrapp I could respect his opinion. Actually I enjoyed our dialogue because I think when people with opposing views talk about race good things can happen. But I won't degrade myself by entering into a debate with someone who tries to figure out what percentage of blacks are trash. Zero people like you have always been my biggest motivation. To always be the best in any class I walked in. Because I knew there were ignorant people like you who felt I didn't have the propensity to do so. That's why I scored in the top 10 percentile on my LSAT and that's among white, black and whoever else took the test nationally. And that's why I had 4 different grad schools offering me full scholarships based on my merit. That's how I pay for my MBA, and no they aren't cheap. And for your info you don't get grants in grad school, only loans and scholarships.

[zero_cool]

Zero your name is a very appropriate. You had so many fallacies in your argument that I honestly don't have time to fully take them all on. I've seen you on other threads with your offensive remarks. I've heard of your myspace page. I could go over all of the injustices that have been brought on to me by people not of my color. But that would be a waste of time. Your comments and you truly don't warrant a response. At least with Scrapp I could respect his opinion. Actually I enjoyed our dialogue because I think when people with opposing views talk about race good things can happen. But I won't degrade myself by entering into a debate with someone who tries to figure out what percentage of blacks are trash. Zero people like you have always been my biggest motivation. To always be the best in any class I walked in. Because I knew there were ignorant people like you who felt I didn't have the propensity to do so. That's why I scored in the top 10 percentile on my LSAT and that's among white, black and whoever else took the test nationally. And that's why I had 4 different grad schools offering me full scholarships based on my merit. That's how I pay for my MBA, and no they aren't cheap. And for your info you don't get grants in grad school, only loans and scholarships.

Killa-you name probably holds truth.
I'm moved that people like me motivate you to excel in your studies. All we need to do now is devise a way to motivate the rest of the black population.

I simply base my racial preference on my personal life experiences and thus far the majority of black people I have come in contact with are trash. As for this shit,

"Because I knew there were ignorant people like you who felt I didn't have the propensity to do so.”

You my friend are exactly what I was talking about. You have this whole ideology that "white people think I'm just another dumb black man". Well you might want to hone those reading skills if your going to law school because I gave a +1 to someone who said "I don't think there should be any scholarships based on ethnicity. What does the color of your skin have to do with your ability to learn?":evil5:
My hat goes off to you and every other person of color in pursuit of higher education but until the number of trashy blacks gets a bit closer to the number of trashy whites and trashy Mexicans your just going to have to deal with a racially bias nation hommie. Hell, if there weren't so many trashy blacks there probably wouldn't be such a large number racist whites? My cousin is half black and every time I see him he goes on and on about how much he hates all the trash ass black people in Houston. WTF?
We could go on and on all day with this topic but the fact of the matter is until more blacks start doing positive things in society, they will continue to be persecuted.


P.S. Pardon all the political incorrectness.:gesture:

[loewer600]

well i agree with the scholarship..thats all im gonna say cuz i dont feel like arguing with nobody..PEACE!!!!

[paniro187]

Tilla why are you even entertaining this c unt. He wouldn't say a word of this in person so he obviously doesn't mean it. I'll take it for you. I'm telling him he won't say it, actually he wouldn't get through saying it before he loses his teeth. Like I said don't feed the monkey he's just talking and not meaning what he says.

[scrapp]

JOKES AND JOKES AND JOKES AND JOKES AND SPAGHETTI SPAGHETTI SPAGHETTI, 8 MILE!

[zero_cool]

Tilla why are you even entertaining this c unt. He wouldn't say a word of this in person so he obviously doesn't mean it. I'll take it for you. I'm telling him he won't say it, actually he wouldn't get through saying it before he loses his teeth. Like I said don't feed the monkey he's just talking and not meaning what he says.

23461 Hwy. 59 #734
Porter, Texas 77365
Come holla at me and I'll show you how to lose some teeth.
I'm just expressing how I feel just like the tilla. If you don't like whats being said get the fukc off the thread.

[koskesh]

are you or have you ever been enslaved? We(Indians) were here way before the europeans. your ancestors were forced to work. . .mine were slaughtered and forced to sign retarted peace treaties they did not understand. I'm for from being racist, so don't take this the wrong way, but at least you still have ancestors around to complain about how bad it WAS, 95% of mine are all gone.

on to the scholarships. . .im all for it!!!!!!!!!!

And thats the damn truth. Really fugged up!

[koskesh]

23461 Hwy. 59 #734
Jasper, Texas 77365
Come holla at me and I'll show you why I lost some teeth.
I'm just expressing how I love the penis(Yummy!!!). If you don't like whats being said get the fukc off the thread.

Here I fixed it for you:icon_thum

[paniro187]

the funnies thing about this is that zero shows exactly why affirmitive action and thie scholarship is needed. Black kid tries to get a scholarship or job if someone like him is making the call the black won't get it but if he's made to give it he has no choice in the matter. :nod:

[scrapp]

but then he has a shitty boss, who is always trying to pull "home alone" tricks on him

[TLLuvr]

I think scholarships should be based on an individuals achievements not on race regardless of which it is. I'm white and I had a partial scholarship (which I screwed up) so don't act like we can't get them. Hopefully when my kids are old enough for college it will be based on them not what color they are.

[paniro187]

but then he has a shitty boss, who is always trying to pull "home alone" tricks on himbut he has the job and the scholarship rather dude likes it or not.

[paniro187]

I think scholarships should be based on an individuals achievements not on race regardless of which it is. I'm white and I had a partial scholarship (which I screwed up) so don't act like we can't get them. Hopefully when my kids are old enough for college it will be based on them not what color they are.in a perfect world it would be that way cause i think that it should be that way to but as long as you got shit like zero out there it's needed.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Really interesting thread. It would seem that a more appropriate title would be "Ignorance run amuck" but whatever. There were, however, some instances of intelligence, preciate it Tilla, I no longer feel the need to address certain items because based on the dialogue here, an intelligent response doesn't warrant an equally intelligent rebuttal (you are alot more patient than am I), I've observed a number of fallacies here, namely: hasty generalizations and alot of misleading vividness....O BUDDY were there some ignorant, baseless and plain misguided suggestions within this thread. Most were so ignorant that I won't even dignify them with response. I will however say this: You absolutely cannot while under the guise of validity, come to the conclusion- based on your experience alone, without any actual empiracal evidence to support said claims- that any group of people are "trash". Such a statement reeks of ignorance, but as I said before, whatever. If a privately owned organization wants to have a white only scholarship, by all means, do as you will. I personally could care less. But I digress, my point is: Let's keep the ignorant, unfounded, plain unintelligent responses off the thread. If you want to make baseless claims, don't get your thong all twisted up when someone responds with a little intelligence. If you disagree with a point, prove it wrong. Don't respond with bOOlshyt ass arguments, that have no basis in reality.

[paniro187]

^ the mind

<the muscle

:nod:

[AliceInChains02]

how boring would it be if there were no jackasses who said stupid shit? you guys need us.

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

^ the mind

<the muscle

:nod:

lmao...awwready

but I got some mus-culls too cat...:nod:

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

how boring would it be if there were no jackasses who said stupid shit? you guys need us.

Man iz already boring on here MOST of the time these days...all these bOOlshyt ass threads n polls being created. I mean wtf good is a poll titled "blah"? Alot of dumb shyt mane, dumb shyt:BangHead:

[AliceInChains02]

Man iz already boring on here MOST of the time these days...all these bOOlshyt ass threads n polls being created. I mean wtf good is a poll titled "blah"? Alot of dumb shyt mane, dumb shyt:BangHead:

i hear ya. not a lot of threads i care to be apart of anymore.