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ChuckR1
09-12-2011, 06:38 AM
Has anyone heard how the guy is doing that ate it on the pit straight Saturday at MSRH. I was a few bikes back and it looked pretty nasty from my vantage point.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 06:40 AM
Nope. A good rule of thumb on this site is that if it wasn't your wreck, don't talk about it. :thumb:

If he wants us to know he ate shit, then he'll post about it.

Tojo92
09-12-2011, 07:06 AM
Nope. A good rule of thumb on this site is that if it wasn't your wreck, don't talk about it. :thumb:

If he wants us to know he ate shit, then he'll post about it.

Good rule of thumb for ALL sites.:thumb:

obed
09-12-2011, 07:11 AM
nice thing about a thumb is that it is bendable...
Tim posted already on the feedback thread that Sammy had 3 broken ribs and a collapsed lung... should be in the hospital a few days...
and some folks think it is a nice thing that other folks care...

ChuckR1
09-12-2011, 07:23 AM
nice thing about a thumb is that it is bendable...
Tim posted already on the feedback thread that Sammy had 3 broken ribs and a collapsed lung... should be in the hospital a few days...
and some folks think it is a nice thing that other folks care...

Thanks for the reply. And yes compasion for your fellow man is a good thing.....

Peregrine
09-12-2011, 07:26 AM
What's with the made-up internet etiquette?

Thanks for the reply. And yes compasion for your fellow man is a good thing.....

+1

zerobounds
09-12-2011, 07:26 AM
We were pulling into the grid when they were about to put him on the stretcher. He seemed calm from what we could see and the ambulance guys didn't seem to be in hyperdrive so we figured it was non-critical.

3 broken ribs is no fun though. =/

Tojo92
09-12-2011, 08:00 AM
nice thing about a thumb is that it is bendable...

....

and some folks think it is a nice thing that other folks care...

No offense intended to anyone, and there are very good points about checking on the rider you mentioned that I quoted above.

To have a discussion though from my perspective of agreeing with Squoddy (I still do).

First...A rule of thumb is a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation. (from Wikipedia)

Usually (see rule of thumb above) following a crash, people go through all sorts of mental gymnastics, especially if they were injured. Yes, some people don't care who knows or talks about it and they are cool with whatever.

You never know where a rider may be in the recovery process from a mental standpoint. If Tim has relayed information on the crash, then I am fairly positive it was done with the permission of the person that crashed.

FWIW, I've been guilty on on all accounts...crashing, asking, telling, etc. I always appreciated either telling the story myself, or having it told by friends I asked to give an update on my behalf.

I hope the rider recovers well.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 08:17 AM
No offense intended to anyone, and there are very good points about checking on the rider you mentioned that I quoted above.

To have a discussion though from my perspective of agreeing with Squoddy (I still do).

First...A rule of thumb is a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation. (from Wikipedia)

Usually (see rule of thumb above) following a crash, people go through all sorts of mental gymnastics, especially if they were injured. Yes, some people don't care who knows or talks about it and they are cool with whatever.

You never know where a rider may be in the recovery process from a mental standpoint. If Tim has relayed information on the crash, then I am fairly positive it was done with the permission of the person that crashed.

FWIW, I've been guilty on on all accounts...crashing, asking, telling, etc. I always appreciated either telling the story myself, or having it told by friends I asked to give an update on my behalf.

I hope the rider recovers well.

This. I've had people crash tell me explicitly NOT to mention their wreck. Especially if it's of their own fault, they are embarrassed about it. :shrug:

It, by no means, relates to lack of compassion on my part. I've stayed with several downed riders, ridden their bikes or trailered them, taken the rider home - that's compassion. Talking about somebody is not compassion.

ChuckR1
09-12-2011, 08:32 AM
Has anyone heard how the guy is doing that ate it on the pit straight Saturday at MSRH. I was a few bikes back and it looked pretty nasty from my vantage point.

I just wanted to know how he was doing. I saw it all and wasn't asking for details and was not going to discuss details of what happened. I was just hoping everything was OK for him.
I can definitely see how someone might not want the details of their accident to be discussed, but just to inquire about how they're doing..... I don't see anything wrong with that.

floyd600
09-12-2011, 08:36 AM
I think the guys was just checking...

the guy that went down came to the track by him self... everyone with fast line were there to help on everything they could.

on one of my videos I walked to take a video of him. (WHY?? ) for many reasons.. people that may know him may not know what happened and now they will (they can go check on him at the hospital) and also.. once he is up and running he can go back and see for him self how well everyone was there to help him.

Now if he comes up to me and tells me to take it down and how he is not happy that I post it the video of him then I will take it down and I am really sorry about that... but other then that, I care less what people think or would like to say about it...

If I ever go down I would like for people to see how I am doing.. and also I would like to see for my self how it was (post it all over the place) I can go back and watch it again and again and again.. to me its a good learning experience.

IMO :thumbsup:

Peregrine
09-12-2011, 09:04 AM
First...A rule of thumb is a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation. (from Wikipedia)


Not to split hairs or anything but your definition for rule of thumb only applies if it is not being used regarding a specific act. In this case it was, which explicitly implies that OP was in the set of circumstances to which it applies.

I don't think this goes anywhere near the level of being offended but appreciate the disclaimer regardless. I, as well, intend no offense.

This. I've had people crash tell me explicitly NOT to mention their wreck. Especially if it's of their own fault, they are embarrassed about it. :shrug:

It, by no means, relates to lack of compassion on my part. I've stayed with several downed riders, ridden their bikes or trailered them, taken the rider home - that's compassion. Talking about somebody is not compassion.

I don't think, and I certainly was not, accusing you of lacking compassion so sorry to the extent that my intent was ambiguous. Rather, your comment regarding OP seemed to insinuate that his motives were for gossip or curiosity rather than compassion. In fact, your last sentence seems to do it again, so I'll just reiterate, asking after someone's welfare is not the same thing as talking about them.

Yes, some people are guilty of morbid curiosity or even worse schadenfreude, but in my experience a person who was a witness to the event and shows genuine concern is given the benefit of the doubt, which you seem to have explicitly refused OP twice now.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 09:41 AM
Not to split hairs or anything but your definition for rule of thumb only applies if it is not being used regarding a specific act. In this case it was, which explicitly implies that OP was in the set of circumstances to which it applies.

I don't think this goes anywhere near the level of being offended but appreciate the disclaimer regardless. I, as well, intend no offense.



I don't think, and I certainly was not, accusing you of lacking compassion so sorry to the extent that my intent was ambiguous. Rather, your comment regarding OP seemed to insinuate that his motives were for gossip or curiosity rather than compassion. In fact, your last sentence seems to do it again, so I'll just reiterate, asking after someone's welfare is not the same thing as talking about them.

Yes, some people are guilty of morbid curiosity or even worse schadenfreude, but in my experience a person who was a witness to the event and shows genuine concern is given the benefit of the doubt, which you seem to have explicitly refused OP twice now.

:hello: I'm horribly nosey. Must be because I'm a girl. :shrug: I have to constrain myself not to ask/talk about people. It's okay - I wasn't then, and am not now offended. I meant no offense to the OP, either. I realize that people care for others - it's the main reason I stay a member on this site. :thumb:

obed
09-12-2011, 11:39 AM
I did not see him go down...
I did ride onto the grid as the EMT's were preparing to take him away...
I watched him being administered to and being loaded up... Tim was asking at that time if he had anyone with him... everyone was doing what they could to make sure his needs were met and that his family was notified... it was well handled...
my curiosity was about his welfare and was glad that Tim posted the info and that other folks were concerned..
we all share the risk of going down and what can happen when you do... and we should be concerned about each other... that is what being part of a group does to and for folks...
was I courious about what caused him to do down.. damn straights.. why.. because maybe learning what happened there can teach me something.. something that I can use to improve my skills and maybe at some point help keep me from going down...but my curiosity about what happened to cause the accident was not discussed here.. nor was any question about that asked by any other here, including the OP...
all that was asked about here was his welfare....
I was not offended by anyone here with their thoughts or opinions...nor did I intend to offend any...just not a fan of the rule of thumb that was mentioned and it is not one that I intend to observe...I will never belittle anyone when talking about any accident they had and what caused it... but I damn sure will do what I can to learn from it...

ciao_strada
09-12-2011, 12:28 PM
I just wanted to know how he was doing. I saw it all and wasn't asking for details and was not going to discuss details of what happened. I was just hoping everything was OK for him.
I can definitely see how someone might not want the details of their accident to be discussed, but just to inquire about how they're doing..... I don't see anything wrong with that.

I understood your intent and appreciate your compassion. I think the reason people here threw out some red flags to begin with was your diction... "how the guy is doing that ate it on the pit straight"

Again, I personally didnt see much of an issue with the op, but I can see how others may (especially gossipy girls :D ). For someone who rolled by the scene, I feel better knowing he seems to be ok, and I wish him a speedy recovery

TheRising
09-12-2011, 02:40 PM
And yet it's OK to call out people for ever other thing known to man....doesn't make sense to me.

Some of you post crash reports that you see riding/driving around and no one ever gets bitched at for that...so why start bitching now?

If you're going to pretend there's some kind of etiquette for posting, follow it in all aspects and drop the call out threads...even when people pass you in your own lane on the HOV. That's a call out thread...perhaps that guy had a bad day and didn't want you posting about him.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 02:45 PM
And yet it's OK to call out people for ever other thing known to man....doesn't make sense to me.

Some of you post crash reports that you see riding/driving around and no one ever gets bitched at for that...so why start bitching now?

If you're going to pretend there's some kind of etiquette for posting, follow it in all aspects and drop the call out threads...even when people pass you in your own lane on the HOV. That's a call out thread...perhaps that guy had a bad day and didn't want you posting about him.

:rofl: :hello: I have no problem calling out somebody for breaking the law, but if it's a fellow rider, I would definitely get permission before posting about his accident. I don't see how the two are the same thing? I don't post crash reports, unless they are my own. :thumb: I have enough of a friend list that I can make a few calls and find out about said rider without posting. :thumb:

Now clean the sand out of your vagina and smile. It didn't hurt you to read or post in this thread - why attack me, personally? Feelings are for girls.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 02:48 PM
I did not see him go down...
I did ride onto the grid as the EMT's were preparing to take him away...
I watched him being administered to and being loaded up... Tim was asking at that time if he had anyone with him... everyone was doing what they could to make sure his needs were met and that his family was notified... it was well handled...
my curiosity was about his welfare and was glad that Tim posted the info and that other folks were concerned..
we all share the risk of going down and what can happen when you do... and we should be concerned about each other... that is what being part of a group does to and for folks...
was I courious about what caused him to do down.. damn straights.. why.. because maybe learning what happened there can teach me something.. something that I can use to improve my skills and maybe at some point help keep me from going down...but my curiosity about what happened to cause the accident was not discussed here.. nor was any question about that asked by any other here, including the OP...
all that was asked about here was his welfare....
I was not offended by anyone here with their thoughts or opinions...nor did I intend to offend any...just not a fan of the rule of thumb that was mentioned and it is not one that I intend to observe...I will never belittle anyone when talking about any accident they had and what caused it... but I damn sure will do what I can to learn from it...

Which is why I will never ride with you. :hello:

TheRising
09-12-2011, 03:02 PM
:rofl: :hello: I have no problem calling out somebody for breaking the law, but if it's a fellow rider, I would definitely get permission before posting about his accident. I don't see how the two are the same thing? I don't post crash reports, unless they are my own. :thumb: I have enough of a friend list that I can make a few calls and find out about said rider without posting. :thumb:

Now clean the sand out of your vagina and smile. It didn't hurt you to read or post in this thread - why attack me, personally? Feelings are for girls.

A call out thread is a call out thread, regardless of the subject.

I don't care about how big your friend list is...are you serious? Good for you.

My feelings aren't hurt in the least, but it sure sounds like yours were. I was merely stating how ironic it is that you would bitch about this thread when you make call outs too. It's ridiculous. Spin it how you want.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 03:04 PM
A call out thread is a call out thread, regardless of the subject.

I don't care about how big your friend list is...are you serious? Good for you.

My feelings aren't hurt in the least, but it sure sounds like yours were. I was merely stating how ironic it is that you would bitch about this thread when you make call outs too. It's ridiculous. Spin it how you want.

:rofl: Why are you so hostile?

You need a blow job.

TheRising
09-12-2011, 03:05 PM
:rofl: Why are you so hostile?

You need a blow job.

I'm not hostile at all.

I just don't appreciate your holier than thou attitude. I'm allowed that, right? :shrug:

kibitzer
09-12-2011, 03:12 PM
:rofl: Why are you so hostile?

You need a blow job.

I'm feeling a little tense myself.

nudge nudge wink wink

floyd600
09-12-2011, 03:40 PM
lol.. you go girl!

floyd600
09-12-2011, 03:41 PM
I'm feeling a little tense myself.

nudge nudge wink wink

:jerk:

obed
09-12-2011, 04:34 PM
Damn, it was me she said she would never ride with...
and I did not think she was being holier than thou...
just a difference of opinon on protocol...
and while she did mention a need, she did not offer to take care of that need...
besides from what I read in the other thread today, she is a good MOM.. and that means a hell of a lot in my book...

floyd600
09-12-2011, 04:51 PM
Damn, it was me she said she would never ride with...
and I did not think she was being holier than thou...
just a difference of opinon on protocol...
and while she did mention a need, she did not offer to take care of that need...
besides from what I read in the other thread today, she is a good MOM.. and that means a hell of a lot in my book...

like the new avatar... now you look just like your screen name sounds. :D :hello:

Godsuki
09-12-2011, 04:59 PM
Brandy, don't make me ban you from my section. Lol

Things are different at a trackday. A guy got hurt, and everyone wants to know how he is. Nothing wrong with that. That's exactly why I posted an update.

Brandy, don't you have something to do in the kitchen? :D

floyd600
09-12-2011, 05:13 PM
bwahahahah.. he said kitchen...

bumblebee
09-12-2011, 05:54 PM
Just a thought, but another reason that occurs to me why we shouldn't talk about other people's wrecks at the track is that, they may be concerned about health insurance coverage.
If their health insurance frowns on certain unsafe activities too much talk on internet forums could compromise their claim.

Whether or not it is ethical to make a claim against said insurance is fodder for another thread. My point is we, by talking in too much detail, could cause a fellow rider problems.
Better to let him or his people do the talking, if any, and we let it lie.

wiayeman
09-12-2011, 06:13 PM
What's a blow job?

Godsuki
09-12-2011, 06:21 PM
What's a blow job?

That's what It's called when Cleland passes you so fast you get blown off the track, duh.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 06:22 PM
Damn, it was me she said she would never ride with...
and I did not think she was being holier than thou...
just a difference of opinon on protocol...
and while she did mention a need, she did not offer to take care of that need...
besides from what I read in the other thread today, she is a good MOM.. and that means a hell of a lot in my book...

Only because you said you would TELL! :angry7:

:thumb: I just know that a lot or riders will straight out TELL you NOT to talk about their accident on the forum. Period. I respect that it's not my place to tell.

Brandy, don't make me ban you from my section. Lol

Things are different at a trackday. A guy got hurt, and everyone wants to know how he is. Nothing wrong with that. That's exactly why I posted an update.

Brandy, don't you have something to do in the kitchen? :D

:-/ Sorry. Weenie left my chain too long. I'm back in there, now, making sammiches.

What's a blow job?

Well... It's a birthday present for a man from a woman who is an acquaintance - meaning he knows what she looks like, but may not know her name. If the man is REALLY lucky, he can have lots of birthdays throughout the year. Most women don't give this gift after they're married, so that's why the woman is only an acquaintance... :topsecret:

It is never spoken of, unless you join a motorcycle forum with the express intent of being a curb monkey. Then it's okay, though, because they only know you're screenname. :thumb:

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 06:22 PM
That's what It's called when Cleland passes you so fast you get blown off the track, duh.

Oh, shit. I got that all wrong.

:er:

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 06:38 PM
I'm not hostile at all.

I just don't appreciate your holier than thou attitude. I'm allowed that, right? :shrug:

I am a girl, and, therefore, naturally holier. :thumb:

:keke::keke::keke:

switch
09-12-2011, 07:53 PM
That's what It's called when Cleland passes you so fast you get blown off the track, duh.

dammit dude, i spit water all over the desk when i read that :rofl:

The BeastMaster
09-12-2011, 08:19 PM
Nope. A good rule of thumb on this site is that if it wasn't your wreck, don't talk about it. :thumb:

If he wants us to know he ate shit, then he'll post about it.
Squoddyl look at what you started!
I think the guys was just checking...

the guy that went down came to the track by him self... everyone with fast line were there to help on everything they could.

on one of my videos I walked to take a video of him. (WHY?? ) for many reasons.. people that may know him may not know what happened and now they will (they can go check on him at the hospital) and also.. once he is up and running he can go back and see for him self how well everyone was there to help him.

Now if he comes up to me and tells me to take it down and how he is not happy that I post it the video of him then I will take it down and I am really sorry about that... but other then that, I care less what people think or would like to say about it...

If I ever go down I would like for people to see how I am doing.. and also I would like to see for my self how it was (post it all over the place) I can go back and watch it again and again and again.. to me its a good learning experience.

IMO :thumbsup:
+1 When I go down. Somebody better be gettin it on video. I'm gonna be PISSED if it's not. And they have my permission to post the hell out of it.

Squoddybody
09-12-2011, 08:21 PM
Squoddyl look at what you started!

+1 When I go down. Somebody better be gettin it on video. I'm gonna be PISSED if it's not. And they have my permission to post the hell out of it.


So give him one:rofl::rofl:

:rofl: I don't think a vagina is the right equipment for a bj. :shrug:

Jredford
09-12-2011, 08:33 PM
That's what It's called when Cleland passes you so fast you get blown off the track, duh.

TRUTH

BigComfy
09-12-2011, 08:36 PM
You need a blow job.

:hello::D

kalanie
09-13-2011, 04:16 AM
The rider came by himself.His bike,trailer and SUV was left at the track.

It's good to know that he doing well especially since he is an older gentleman.

texasyankee
09-14-2011, 12:49 AM
:rofl: Why are you so hostile?

You need a blow job.

I'm the one that needs a blow job. I earned it.:D

I just got out of the hospital. Ill post what I remember later. Others are free to post, comment, criticize etc. Best thing is that I bought a Temperpedic adjustable bed two weeks ago. That should keep pressure on my shoulder and ribs.

Couple broken ribs, several in two places and a broken right collarbone to match the broken left one from a crash CCW in 17.

babymilo36
09-14-2011, 01:10 AM
I'm the one that needs a blow job. I earned it.:D

I just got out of the hospital. Ill post what I remember later. Others are free to post, comment, criticize etc. Best thing is that I bought a Temperpedic adjustable bed two weeks ago. That should keep pressure on my shoulder and ribs.

Couple broken ribs, several in two places and a broken right collarbone to match the broken left one from a crash CCW in 17.

Rest up man! Glad to hear it wasn't any worse than it could of been.

tiatool
09-14-2011, 02:10 AM
Squoddyl look at what you started!

+1 When I go down. Somebody better be gettin it on video. I'm gonna be PISSED if it's not. And they have my permission to post the hell out of it.

Is this in regards to track time or the bj time? Its ambiguous considering the subject matter. :D:D

Godsuki
09-14-2011, 06:25 AM
Is this in regards to track time or the bj time? Its ambiguous considering the subject matter. :D:D

I'm sure I speak for all when I say, we really don't need another shorty79, so I hope he's referring to the track. :D

Bevo
09-14-2011, 06:43 AM
You need a blow job?1. Bevo
2. Your name here

Squoddybody
09-14-2011, 06:47 AM
I'm the one that needs a blow job. I earned it.:D

I just got out of the hospital. Ill post what I remember later. Others are free to post, comment, criticize etc. Best thing is that I bought a Temperpedic adjustable bed two weeks ago. That should keep pressure on my shoulder and ribs.

Couple broken ribs, several in two places and a broken right collarbone to match the broken left one from a crash CCW in 17.

:thumb: Glad to see you're posting! And you definitely deserve a bj. Ask a stranger! :thumb:

1. Bevo
2. Your name here

:rofl::rofl::rofl: I think your list would be easier to read if only those who DON'T want a bj sign up. :nod: Otherwise, this could take a long time...

Bevo
09-14-2011, 06:57 AM
:rofl::rofl::rofl: I think your list would be easier to read if only those who DON'T want a bj sign up. :nod: Otherwise, this could take a long time... Ewwww:icon_puke:
1. Mudbug
2. Your name here













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Martinez
09-14-2011, 07:09 AM
Glad your doing better I wish you a speedy recovery. God Bless

floyd600
09-14-2011, 07:25 AM
very glad you're doing good out there buddy! Hope you get better

Slyder
09-14-2011, 11:53 AM
I have your vid. I will not post it, but when you are up to it I will burn it if you wanna see what the guy behind you saw.

So glad you hear that you are OK. Rest up!
Thank you. If you want to post the vid, please do so. I would like to see what happened. I've watched a lot of other crash videos, so I won't have a different rule for myself. Thank you missing me. I hope I didn't scare you.

Rider requested that the video be posted. Please accept this as not only a record of the event but as another teaching tool to encourage safety and keeping your cool in this type of instance.

Special thanks to the rider that both provided the footage and for remained calm in this stressful situation (which kept this incident a one rider get off).

eNtvus2a6ZE

psychomedicHFD
09-14-2011, 12:08 PM
I watched that video multiple times and I cant see what happened. Did you use the rear brake and it lock up?

Sorry that you crashed and I hope you heal up soon, and if ya need anything just ask.


But guys/gals...in this sport crashing will happen. Its not if you crash at the track...its WHEN you crash at the track. Hopefully it doesnt discourage you from getting back out there, and you learn from your mistakes....also video will help others learn from your mistakes, because thats why we all do this. To become better riders.


Cullen

QUICKGIXX
09-14-2011, 12:28 PM
glad your ok. Hope to see you back out there soon. Im not monday night quarter backing by any means, but yes it does look like he locked up his rear.(just my observations..I dont claim to be an expert) No biggie, it could of happened to anyone. We live and we learn. The most important thing here is that he is ok and able to post on here with us today.

floyd600
09-14-2011, 12:32 PM
:eek3: holy sheep!!

People that saw you go down said that you used the front brakes way too much.. your arms were very stiff going into that turn.
It may have been a little tooo much front brakes.

I'm no track expert so someone should be able to see what really happened and give you an Idea.

Over all.. I'm very glad that you are in good spirit.
That was one nasty crash...:crying:

floyd600
09-14-2011, 12:38 PM
Sorry that you crashed and I hope you heal up soon, and if ya need anything just ask.


But guys/gals...in this sport crashing will happen. Its not if you crash at the track...its WHEN you crash at the track. Hopefully it doesnt discourage you from getting back out there, and you learn from your mistakes....also video will help others learn from your mistakes, because thats why we all do this. To become better riders.

:notworthy::notworthy::thumb::thumb:
yes sir!! all we do its learn and keep learning...

Chuckster
09-14-2011, 12:44 PM
Just a thought, but another reason that occurs to me why we shouldn't talk about other people's wrecks at the track is that, they may be concerned about health insurance coverage.
If their health insurance frowns on certain unsafe activities too much talk on internet forums could compromise their claim.

Whether or not it is ethical to make a claim against said insurance is fodder for another thread. My point is we, by talking in too much detail, could cause a fellow rider problems.
Better to let him or his people do the talking, if any, and we let it lie.

Since there was an ambulance ride involved I'd say this particular instance doesn't qualify since they had to file a report. But if there wasn't an ambulance involved I'd have to agree

Vegas Kid
09-14-2011, 02:24 PM
Damn...looks like you hit the brakes HARD since the bike got squirly right before you went down.

I too am not an expert, just play one on the internet.

Glad to see you're doing alright...

texasyankee
09-14-2011, 03:19 PM
From what I remember: I'm downshifting and light on the brakes, when I realize that I've got a false neutral. I'm trying to get it into gear and also the speed down when suddenly I'm on the ground thinking "this hurts". I slide a little further and the next thing I remember the EMT is asking if I know where I am and who I am.

In an earlier session, I got a false neutral coming over the Launch but I controlled it. I don't know if there is a mechanical problem or a technique problem.

bumblebee
09-14-2011, 03:21 PM
Since there was an ambulance ride involved I'd say this particular instance doesn't qualify since they had to file a report. But if there wasn't an ambulance involved I'd have to agree

The reason I said this is, I know someone who wrecked at a trackday and took the ambulance ride. He was able to tell the insurance co. it happened on the road near the track because he was concerned they wouldn't cover his injuries. (which required surgery)
I don't know if they would or would not cover his medical bills but if they found out the accident didn't happen where reported, it likely would have complicated things.
That's why I was sayin' it should be left to the rider to make that call. Too much internet chat might make things difficult. Ya never know all the circumstances.

Irak
09-14-2011, 03:41 PM
That is what it looked to me, Sam. Basically that you downshifted twice, locked the rear (even though your ZX6 has a slipper clutch), panic, grab a full of front brake and went down.

I am glad you are doing fine. If I remember you, you were the guy that rode an SV650 at LMS trackdays. If that is you, I know you can ride and are a very good rider, not a noob, but as Cullen said unfortunately some time shit happens.

Have you (or your family) picked up your bike from the track? I went on Sunday and it was there still. If you need help doing that, just let me know.

floyd600
09-14-2011, 03:57 PM
+1 to what Irak said... I can also help to pick up the bike (i'm 30 minutes away from it) I could help if you also need help.

My buddy did the same thing at the track the same day and ran off the track on his R6.. he had a false neutral, he didnt wanted it to upset the bike by dropping it into 2nd at that speed. The rear end will start doing sig sags..

ciao_strada
09-14-2011, 03:59 PM
thank you for sharing the video, it will be a good learning experience for all of us, at least. I rode by you and could hear your pain, Im glad that you are ok to post about it.

If anybody missed this while watching, there is a ~20 ft skid mark, finally turning to the left as the bike sweeps over. Smoke seems to be coming from the rear tire.

texasyankee
09-14-2011, 04:03 PM
That is what it looked to me, Sam. Basically that you downshifted twice, locked the rear (even though your ZX6 has a slipper clutch), panic, grab a full of front brake and went down.

I am glad you are doing fine. If I remember you, you were the guy that rode an SV650 at LMS trackdays. If that is you, I know you can ride and are a very good rider, not a noob, but as Cullen said unfortunately some time shit happens.

Have you (or your family) picked up your bike from the track? I went on Sunday and it was there still. If you need help doing that, just let me know.

That's me. I think I might go back to an SV650. Thanks for the offer, but my friend picked it up Sunday. He had to watch the Texans game first.

floyd600
09-14-2011, 04:13 PM
thank you for sharing the video, it will be a good learning experience for all of us, at least. I rode by you and could hear your pain, Im glad that you are ok to post about it.

If anybody missed this while watching, there is a ~20 ft skid mark, finally turning to the left as the bike sweeps over. Smoke seems to be coming from the rear tire.

I wanna see the video of Babymilos cutting on your inside.. :D:nod:

ciao_strada
09-14-2011, 04:43 PM
I wanna see the video of Babymilos cutting on your inside.. :D:nod:

you can, go back to pg 3 and watch my super awesome video :D Id tell you when, but then you wouldnt see the whole thing :keke:

(pg 3 of this thread i mean http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198641&page=3)

babymilo36
09-14-2011, 04:45 PM
I wanna see the video of Babymilos cutting on your inside.. :D:nod:

http://wforiders.com/forums/images/smilies/noemo.gif

floyd600
09-14-2011, 04:47 PM
you can, go back to pg 3 and watch my super awesome video :D Id tell you when, but then you wouldnt see the whole thing :keke:

(pg 3 of this thread i mean http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198641&page=3)

Lol... I started watching but then I stopped because it wasn't mine...:D

then I saw sherman's video so now I have to go back and see it... :rofl:

:banghead:

floyd600
09-14-2011, 04:48 PM
http://wforiders.com/forums/images/smilies/noemo.gif

:rofl: I'll keep you in mind next time we're out there... you like to play dirty.. :thumb:

triumphant675r
09-14-2011, 04:53 PM
I wanna see the video of Babymilos cutting on your inside.. :D:nod:

it's at 4:25ish. sheesh that was close! :keke::eek3:

floyd600
09-14-2011, 05:23 PM
it's at 4:25ish. sheesh that was close! :keke::eek3:

lol.. I still went and watched the whole thing.

I like sherman's view a lot better... :hello: you can see the whole thing! :rofl:






I'm just giving you a hard time sherman. :thumb:

ciao_strada
09-14-2011, 06:13 PM
lol.. I still went and watched the whole thing.

I like sherman's view a lot better... :hello: you can see the whole thing! :rofl:






I'm just giving you a hard time sherman. :thumb:

really, where is his video? send me a link

Peregrine
09-14-2011, 06:28 PM
So, is it right that when you have a false neutral, you always shift back UP to avoid this situation? Or is that something else. Total noob here trying to figure this out.