What Supplements are you on???

[02gixxer750]

just wondering what supplements everyone is taking.

[ALEXD]

If you want to gain weight or get bigger take what i did. I use to be 180lbs now i'm at 240lbs. I took these supplements :
17 HD
N.O. xplode
Russian bear protein drink <--- this stuff has 2,000 calories in one drink

Now im am trying to lose all the weight i gained :(

[ormand]

Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex - 60g protein/shake

[bunxx]

If you want to gain weight or get bigger take what i did. I use to be 180lbs now i'm at 240lbs. I took these supplements :
17 HD
N.O. xplode
Russian bear protein drink <--- this stuff has 2,000 calories in one drink

Now im am trying to lose all the weight i gained :(

i havent heard of the russian drink

i took n.o. xplode, i think thats the best overall

i tried 17 hd also, basically just a testosterone pill right? it def. gave me energy

at the moment all im doing is taking protein, different protein shakes/drinks etc, i just started getting back into it though, got bored and decided i wanted to be how i use to be, ive never been over 190 :sad: fast metabolism FTW:banghead:

[02gixxer750]

i have taken the pro complex before! it tasted pretty good!

[ormand]

i have taken the pro complex before! it tasted pretty good!

ON Pro Complex Rocky Road is the shit! http://www.ormand.net/forums/images/smilies/miller.gif

[po-po 5.0]

GNc 100% Whey (strawberrry)

GNC Megamen sport vitamins

GNC arginine

[02gixxer750]

i decided to get off supplements for a few weeks since i have been on them for a while now. :( but i think im mentally addicted lol.

im about to start taking

kre alkalyn

Noxoval

animal pak vitamins

aminos

[ALEXD]

i havent heard of the russian drink

i took n.o. xplode, i think thats the best overall

i tried 17 hd also, basically just a testosterone pill right? it def. gave me energy

at the moment all im doing is taking protein, different protein shakes/drinks etc, i just started getting back into it though, got bored and decided i wanted to be how i use to be, ive never been over 190 :sad: fast metabolism FTW:banghead:

yeah fast metabo sux, now i dont even care to be bigger anymore i just want to be in shape thats all. I used to be dedicated to working out everyday <---- this is the trick to getting big dont rest every other day. If you really want something that will work go to nutrition depot on mason rd in katy. When you walk in just tell the old man that you have been taking such and such but you dont see results. Tell him you want something to get you bigger and he will show you all his supplements.

[coojo]

dedicated to working out everyday <---- this is the trick to getting big

no it's not. working out will change how much of your body is muscle. gaining/losing/maintaining weight is diet. eating more is the trick to getting bigger

[ShortbyNature]

GNc 100% Whey (strawberrry)

GNC Megamen sport vitamins

GNC arginine

Best combo on here so far.
For those who dont know... ON (optimum nutrition) makes all of GNC protein and amino products. So you get same stuff for less. ON is top rated on quality control and purity.
You need protein, vitamin, prework out supp like AAKG or some cre ethyl ester(works better than kre alk) and preferably some BCAA

[02gixxer750]

i have taken ethyl ester also. too much water weight. for me kre alk worked the best. i gained alot more mass (still some water weight). and gnc products are expensive as shit bro.

[C.Hern5972]

tren, test, eq

[Production675]

hey i went from 145 to 210 in three months on anabolic testosterone i took pro hormones and a testosterone booster, I got it from linda at whole sale nutraints on richmond between fountain view and cheminey rock across from sams boat i had 7% body fat too. side effects bad temper agressive, harder bigger and go for hours also gave me my first kid. so u take the size and the kid or just be you!!! lol

[ShortbyNature]

i have taken ethyl ester also. too much water weight. for me kre alk worked the best. i gained alot more mass (still some water weight). and gnc products are expensive as shit bro.

neither cause ANY water weight. And read the science and reviews. NO body uses kre alk in the pros.

[02gixxer750]

are you kidding me?? your saying creatine cause ZERO water weight?? alot of pro's take other shit also. dont compare yourself or me to a professional athlete.

[02gixxer750]

Negative Creatine Side Effects

No serious side effects from creatine have ever been recorded in research. A common misconception is that creatine is an abusive steroid-like substance that can kill you. With a little education, most people can realize the falsity of their claims.

The most common ‘negative’ side effect is an increase in water weight. An increase in water weight can make you appear to be bloated. It will look like you just got done eating Christmas dinner. And because your muscle will retain more water, they might feel softer to the touch. Your muscles will still be hard and impressive to a normal person, but after you rest for a few hours and try to flex, your muscles might not be as rock hard. There are possibly other unknown negative side effects associated with creatine, but due to a lack of research there isn’t much available.

Another negative side effect of creatine is when you get off the cycle. If you take creatine for 4 months and then stop taking it, you will notice a sharp decrease in your energy level and appearance. Your body might ‘deflate’ slightly as you lose the excess water weight.


Positive Creatine Side Effects

Now onto the good stuff. Do you ever feel fatigued or tired? Do you wake up and decide you don’t want to work out because you’re too tired to lift weights or go run? Well, if you answered yes to any of these questions then creatine is for you. Creatine is an energy booster. It’s not like drinking coffee or an energy drink, by taking daily creatine supplements your body will get used to having more energy throughout the day, leaving you enough energy to wake up, hit the gym, and provide that boost you need to lift an additional rep.

Another positive side effect of creatine is how it will make you look bigger. I am assuming that is a look you want if you are reading this blog. When you take creatine your body retains more water, making you look fuller. It will make your chest and arms appear to be bigger because of the water in the muscles.

By taking creatine you will be able to work out longer and lift more reps than usual. This is a very positive benefit of taking the supplement. You will gain weight (some water weight but most muscle weight). If you are a skinny person now and are looking to bulk up, then it is highly recommended that you take creatine along with other supplements to help speed along the process. Not only will you increase your weight rapidly, but you will gain more confidence as you watch your body bulk up.

[02gixxer750]

one more....

Creatine increases water retention in the body's cells, so dehydration is a very possible side effect. Creatine users should be absolutely sure to drink plenty of fluids to avoid the dangerous possibility of dehydration.

Creatine is also known to cause weight gain. While this is considered a side effect, most people who are weight training would consider this a benefit. Weight gain is caused mainly by the increase in muscle mass, while additional weight gain may be attributed to water retention. Creatine ethyl ester may reduce effects associated with water retention.

Cramping and bloating are the most common side effects experienced by creatine users. However, with the more easily absorbed creatine ethyl ester form, these side effects may be eliminated or reduced. If you no longer take creatine monohydrate due to these adverse effects, you may benefit from creatine ethyl ester.

[bluewave18]

Omnadren and dbol for me

[ShortbyNature]

Your only half right. creatine monohydrate that your talking about does cause water weight and bloating. Ethyl and kre alk dont.

WHY do you ask.... becuase of the "delivery agent" attached to the creatine molecule. Remember different nutrients abosorb through different "channels". In this case we are talking about fat soluable verses water soluable. Monohydrate doesnt absorb as well and most of it retains in water outside cells (increasing water retention). Ethyl ester does not. It absorbs almost a 100% this is why you take half as much and with out sugar. Sugar causes a insulin spike which drives nutrients (especially carbs) into the cells. Ethyl ester does not require carbs for digestion. And as for bloating.... monohydrate is destroyed by stomach acid as ethyl ester and kre alk are not. Another reason you take much less and there is no bloating.

Now what im telliing you about the pros and published data is that the ethyl ester out preforms in MOST people over the kre alk.

[02gixxer750]

ethyl ester is makes many claims as to have DECREASED water retention Decreased bloating etc. all forms of creatine have SOME water retention. some more than others. even ethyl ester. i have taken all three. ethyl ester, mono, and kre alk. and i have also read articles on bodybuilding.com

Creatine is also known to cause weight gain. While this is considered a side effect, most people who are weight training would consider this a benefit. Weight gain is caused mainly by the increase in muscle mass, while additional weight gain may be attributed to water retention. Creatine ETHYL ESTER may REDUCE effects associated with WATER RETENTION

CREATINE = some WATER RETENTION.

[ShortbyNature]

Totally missing the point. but sure thats pretty much correct SOME like as in a few ounces verses liters. Either way there is no difference in water retention of kre alk vs ethyl ester. Show me real evidence and no bro-science.

[Hooligan]

N.O. Xplode- love it, never workout with it.

Truemass- taste great, recovers muscles super fast and has everything you need to gain lean muscle. Under $2.50 a shake isn't bad at all



I try to eat food more often the take the protien shakes, but their great for snacks

[02gixxer750]

i used to take n.o. and would get insane work outs! but i dont wanna become dependent on all that caffein for energy... my workouts arent as intense without it though! :(

[flipboy326]

I'm on

2 A.D and Atro-Phex

trying to go down from a strong, but dirty 210lbs, to a much leaner 190.

[chasee69]

take

bsn protein daily
no xplode on work out days
a multi vitamin everyday

[ShortbyNature]

noexplode makes me have to take a shit sometime. Its probably the excessive caff. Either way it does kinda work but its really bad for you. Like hydroxycut kinda bad. I also has alot of sugar if i remember correctly. And even though i do like a couple of BSN's other products, I have to mention that they are currently under a big ass class action suite for improper labeling. This inculded different types of creatine than labeled and improper weights/quanity. Cell Mas is the product at question.

Syntha-6 is good stuff. 2 scoops is probably the best tasting high quality low cal meal replacement. But it makes me even wonder now why it taste so damn good!!!

check out Superpump and VPX's Noshotgun(this one kicks noxplodes ass and has 20g of protein in it)(vpx makes redline energy drink fyi). Something on the less advertised cheap but good quality... Dymatize line of everything is decent and well priced anywhere. They make a caffeine free prework out that really works.

[--SV--]

Look here it is in English.
Any supplememnt=more energy (your words)= faster heart rate. With prolonged use= heart attack.
I know plenty of people who are super man swole and they didn't get there in 4 months and drinking really fu-king expensive chemicals.
Work out 3 days a week for a year and you will be as big as your body is naturally supposed to be. Without moodswings/ acne/ and the chance of killing yourself to look good.

But im not a doctor, just had this convo before

[aznhero913]

NO-Xplode preworkout
Cellmass+Syntha-6 postworkout (best stack ever!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Optimum Nut. Casein before going to bed.
whenever i have time to blend it, Met-RX meal replacement choc. shake.

Wish I knew about supplementation and its capabilities when i first started working out in high school.

[Pedro Navaja]

I currently use Unjury protein. This is the best I have used thus far. It is a bit pricey. I have used Nox, Creatine, and HMB in the past with good success. I also use Zero during and after workouts to keep hydrated. Works great for hot riding days.

http://alatriste.smugmug.com/Other/Anahuac-MC-Loop/CIMG1834/621632693_t9vGh-S.jpg

[gtdrivr]

Extenze

[Pedro Navaja]

Extenze

Lol! :rofl: ...No es un truco!...(the commercial on Spanish TV)

[po-po 5.0]

Look here it is in English.
Any supplememnt=more energy (your words)= faster heart rate. With prolonged use= heart attack.
I know plenty of people who are super man swole and they didn't get there in 4 months and drinking really fu-king expensive chemicals.
Work out 3 days a week for a year and you will be as big as your body is naturally supposed to be. Without moodswings/ acne/ and the chance of killing yourself to look good.

But im not a doctor, just had this convo before

Been working out 3+ days a week for two years. If this is as "big as your body is naturaly supposed to be" then I shouldn't be allowed to have testicles.


In other words: you're full of shit.

[--SV--]

In other words: you're full of shit.

Just remember this in 20 years. You'll see.

[FireMalt]

Muscle Tech NoNa Vapor(pre-workout)
Gaspari Size On(creatine-during workout)
Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein(after workout)
Labrada Pro V60 Blend Protien(night & morning)
CTD Labs Decabolen
Liver saver
and a few others for the next 2 weeks...

[kdog22]

Currently ( my favorite combo ):

Cytogainer and muscle milk shakes ( best tasting shakes ever IMO)
Complex amino acids
multivitamin


I never liked creatine, i didn't care for CTD labs winadrol and i have a bottle of decabolen i have yet to try.

Shakes, vitamins and a good diet are ultimately the way to go.

[Hooligan]

Shakes, vitamins and a good diet are ultimately the way to go.



Couldn't of said it better myself.

It is hard and sometimes expensive to eat right all the time, I'm guilty of eating a few crappy meals a week, but what you eat will determine your end result- it's fact.

I try to eat alot of whole grains and fruits/veggies, turkey in my spaghetti instead of fatty beef, and usually stay away from any kind of fatty food. Even when I go out to eat I try to stick with the healthiest thing on the menu, like at hooters I'll have a grilled chicken sammich (no butter) by itself.

I'm not trying to get "swoll" or jacked, I just like to fill out a bit.

[tonyt915]

I take this stuff called winstrol it works great!

[Snow]

All I take is whey.

Too many people depend on supplements for their energy and gains.

Not trying to knock anyone using some supplements to get over plateaus and stuff, but I have seen countless people stop taking their supplements and just shrink right up.

[ddgtomahawk]

Been working out 3+ days a week for two years. If this is as "big as your body is naturaly supposed to be" then I shouldn't be allowed to have testicles.


In other words: you're full of shit.

Your doing it wrong then, period.

[Snow]

Your doing it wrong then, period.

:thumb:

I kinda glanced through this thread and saw everyone claiming multiple supps. Nice to know not everyone is doing it.

Progress is slower without supplements, but it is REAL progress. Not something I will lose.

The guys at GNC are always trying to get me to take something other than whey, and it is incredibly annoying.

I have never been a supp taker, and I have the same body people taking supplements are going for.

[ddgtomahawk]

You won't lose true gains period, too many people think muscle just disappears I promise it doesn't.

[ENDO_monkey]

You won't lose true gains period, too many people think muscle just disappears I promise it doesn't.


Just turns to fat. Well not technically but yes you can lose your gains no matter how you got them

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/health/nutrition/26real.html

[Snow]

NY Times never lies...


I know for a fact that I got a sick pack, and then did nothing to work abs except sex for working abs and they stuck around. Only lately have I gone back to doing weighted crunches cuz my core is getting weak compared to the rest of my body.

I know biceps stick around too. Once you get em, they never seem to get weaker.

I have seen quite a few people though that really do just get weaker and muscles shrink. All of these people were hardcore supplement takers.

[ENDO_monkey]

NY Times never lies...


I know for a fact that I got a sick pack, and then did nothing to work abs except sex for working abs and they stuck around. Only lately have I gone back to doing weighted crunches cuz my core is getting weak compared to the rest of my body.

I know biceps stick around too. Once you get em, they never seem to get weaker.

I have seen quite a few people though that really do just get weaker and muscles shrink. All of these people were hardcore supplement takers.


I didnt say that NY times were always correct I just inserted an article for time reasons since i was at work.

If you dont use it you lose it. Just bc you gained muscles the natural way if you dont do anything to maintain they will start to get weaker. Its just a fact. You will notice the difference in people who were taking steriods bc their body was never able to get like that in the first place with out the extra help.

So are you telling me that bc you have abs and biceps now and you got them the natural way that when you are 80 you will have the EXACT same strenght level? Or if you eat whatever you want like fast food for every meal that your body will still have the same strenght?
I can tell you right now thats a big fat negative ghost rider!

It may just be eaiser for your body to maintain what you have now. How old are you?

[CaligoneTx]

I lost muscle but was lack of eating for 2 weeks straight from sickness :rofl:


I work out for health. <<<<<that's a period at the end....

If it gives me results, great. I enjoy the extra energy etc. If my body needs calories, I eat.

I dont have a need for alternative ways to feed my body. Been there long ago, done that. Im just interested in being healthier now.

[ormand]

"Muscle memory" anyone? lol :computer:

[ddgtomahawk]

I didnt say that NY times were always correct I just inserted an article for time reasons since i was at work.

If you dont use it you lose it. Just bc you gained muscles the natural way if you dont do anything to maintain they will start to get weaker. Its just a fact. You will notice the difference in people who were taking steriods bc their body was never able to get like that in the first place with out the extra help.

So are you telling me that bc you have abs and biceps now and you got them the natural way that when you are 80 you will have the EXACT same strenght level? Or if you eat whatever you want like fast food for every meal that your body will still have the same strenght?
I can tell you right now thats a big fat negative ghost rider!

It may just be eaiser for your body to maintain what you have now. How old are you?

What he is trying to say is your body is easier to maintain naturally, with supplement if you lose them with increasing your regiment in exercise.
And you just said muscle turn into fat thats bull shit.

[ddgtomahawk]

I didnt say that NY times were always correct I just inserted an article for time reasons since i was at work.

If you dont use it you lose it. Just bc you gained muscles the natural way if you dont do anything to maintain they will start to get weaker. Its just a fact. You will notice the difference in people who were taking steriods bc their body was never able to get like that in the first place with out the extra help.

So are you telling me that bc you have abs and biceps now and you got them the natural way that when you are 80 you will have the EXACT same strenght level? Or if you eat whatever you want like fast food for every meal that your body will still have the same strenght?
I can tell you right now thats a big fat negative ghost rider!

It may just be eaiser for your body to maintain what you have now. How old are you?

How does that affect strength?

[Snow]

I didnt say that NY times were always correct I just inserted an article for time reasons since i was at work.

If you dont use it you lose it. Just bc you gained muscles the natural way if you dont do anything to maintain they will start to get weaker. Its just a fact. You will notice the difference in people who were taking steriods bc their body was never able to get like that in the first place with out the extra help.

So are you telling me that bc you have abs and biceps now and you got them the natural way that when you are 80 you will have the EXACT same strenght level? Or if you eat whatever you want like fast food for every meal that your body will still have the same strenght?
I can tell you right now thats a big fat negative ghost rider!

It may just be eaiser for your body to maintain what you have now. How old are you?

See what ddgtomahawk said:

What he is trying to say is your body is easier to maintain naturally, with supplement if you lose them with increasing your regiment in exercise.
And you just said muscle turn into fat thats bull shit.

Thanks for clarifying what I said.

sure, if you don't do anything to maintain, you will lose muscle, but it is very easy to maintain muscle you got legit.

[ENDO_monkey]

Just turns to fat. Well not technically but yes you can lose your gains no matter how you got them

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/health/nutrition/26real.html

Never did I say it turns directly into fat, just that your composition can change and you can gain more fat.

I didnt say that NY times were always correct I just inserted an article for time reasons since i was at work.

If you dont use it you lose it. Just bc you gained muscles the natural way if you dont do anything to maintain they will start to get weaker. Its just a fact. You will notice the difference in people who were taking steriods bc their body was never able to get like that in the first place with out the extra help.

So are you telling me that bc you have abs and biceps now and you got them the natural way that when you are 80 you will have the EXACT same strenght level? Or if you eat whatever you want like fast food for every meal that your body will still have the same strenght?(sorry I ment to say mass instead of strenght)
I can tell you right now thats a big fat negative ghost rider!

It may just be eaiser for your body to maintain what you have now. How old are you?

What he is trying to say is your body is easier to maintain naturally, with supplement if you lose them with increasing your regiment in exercise.
And you just said muscle turn into fat thats bull shit.

Notice my highlight for you. I said the exact same thing

NY Times never lies...


I know for a fact that I got a sick pack, and then did nothing to work abs except sex for working abs and they stuck around. Only lately have I gone back to doing weighted crunches cuz my core is getting weak compared to the rest of my body.

I know biceps stick around too. Once you get em, they never seem to get weaker.

now this statement would be bullshit.


sure, if you don't do anything to maintain, you will lose muscle, but it is very easy to maintain muscle you got legit.


I said the same thing. You were trying to say you dont do ANTHING to maintain. Obiviously you do or otherwise you would lose your stenght and mass.

[po-po 5.0]

sure, if you don't do anything to maintain, you will lose muscle, but it is very easy to maintain muscle you got legit.

If by "supplements" you simply mean the shit you buy at GNC then you'll be able to keep your gains just as easily..................as long a you're measuring MUSCLE and not water weight. A lot of things such as Creatine will make you look "bigger" and weigh more because you're retaining water. Obviously the water weight dissapears when you stop talking creatine. However, the strength sticks around.

Now if you're talking about steroids, its fully possible to get larger than your body can support naturally, but you won't even touch that size with anything you get from the corner store.

[kdog22]

If by "supplements" you simply mean the shit you buy at GNC then you'll be able to keep your gains just as easily..................as long a you're measuring MUSCLE and not water weight. A lot of things such as Creatine will make you look "bigger" and weigh more because you're retaining water. Obviously the water weight dissapears when you stop talking creatine. However, the strength sticks around.
Now if you're talking about steroids, its fully possible to get larger than your body can support naturally, but you won't even touch that size with anything you get from the corner store.


Wait wait, just to clarify.. If you are working out naturally (no steroids, creatine, etc.) gain muscle and size and you stop working out, your gonna lose your gains but keep your strength?

[ENDO_monkey]

You won't lose true gains period, too many people think muscle just disappears I promise it doesn't.

Yes it does. It will shrink if you dont use it. Doesnt matter how you gain it, natural or not, period.

Wait wait, just to clarify.. If you are working out naturally (no steroids, creatine, etc.) gain muscle and size and you stop working out, your gonna lose your gains but keep your strength?

you caught that too? LOl.

This thread wins.

[ddgtomahawk]

Wait wait, just to clarify.. If you are working out naturally (no steroids, creatine, etc.) gain muscle and size and you stop working out, your gonna lose your gains but keep your strength?

Strength takes longer to lose you will lose your tone and definition but the strength will hang around the longest.

[ddgtomahawk]

Yes it does. It will shrink if you dont use it. Doesnt matter how you gain it, natural or not, period.



you caught that too? LOl.

This thread wins.

3% Muscle body mass lose from isolation every ten days, believe me I was not arguing that not using them will not have a affect I was pointing out the degree of the affect from natural vs. supplements. Supplements having a more severe loss.

[kdog22]

you caught that too? LOl.

This thread wins.

:D


Strength takes longer to lose you will lose your tone and definition but the strength will hang around the longest.

I'm glad you added "the longest" in there at the end. I can agree with that.
I know first hand and i'm sure many others can agree that YOU WILL LOSE TONE, DEFINITION, SIZE AND AND AND STRENGTH if you stop working out.

I promise strength doesn't "stick around"... If you work out religiously for an entire year then stop all together, your going to lose your size and strength. Maybe not all of your strength if your active at all but over time it WILL happen.

Taking into consideration that everyone has different body types and everyone will be different it's just a simple fact... Eventually, sooner or later you will lose that strength if you quit working out all together.

.... Time for a cigarette after all that typing :D

[ENDO_monkey]

3% Muscle body mass lose from isolation every ten days, believe me I was not arguing that not using them will not have a affect I was pointing out the degree of the affect from natural vs. supplements. Supplements having a more severe loss.


I agree with you on that statment.

[SpeedCheeser]

I think he's just trying to say, that if you stop working out, everything else constant, you'll probably put on a little flab and "soften out", so you don't "look" as strong as you used to (i.e. cut/shaped), but much of your actual strength will still be there. Though, it too will diminish.

[Talamantes]

optimum nutrition whey gold standard
optimum nutrition casein
optimum nutrition glycomaize
jack3d/white flood (cycle on those 2)
uni-liver
multivitamin
some times a carnivore protein shot just to add different kinds of protein in my diet


current cycle
testerone cypionate 500mg
dianabol 20mg
arimidex

[FireMalt]

"Muscle memory" anyone?

:hello:

Didn't step foot in the gym for nearly a year after my shoulder surgery. Eventhough I kept the some diet (minus all the extra protien), I lost about 15 pounds last year. Finally started going back to the gym earlier this year, and have already gained about 10 pounds back, even with my protien intake at a minimum.

[02gixxer750]

has anyone here taken PH's?

[Reedy07R6]

its called hard work and dedication.. i eat whatever the hell i want and jus make sure i throw some fruits and veggies in there somewhere, however i wouldn't knock the occasional natural protein shakes

[bowtechjunky]

Super amino
mitotropin
cytolean
iss vita pak
cla
super b complex
WATER
WATER
lots of food protein
fish
chicken
turkey
steak
brown rice and tuna

[brandontx]

A friend of mine drank Creatine everyday for a year and one of his balls got bigger than the other one and he grew bitch tits.

[kdog22]

A friend of mine drank Creatine everyday for a year and one of his balls got bigger than the other one and he grew bitch tits.

:rofl:



Stay away from creatine..